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Old Jan 09, 2008, 10:29 AM // 10:29   #21
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man take LR over whirling... lr is up longer percentaewise than whirling will ever be... it has a faster recharge.. and you really only need 11s to gtfo otherwise go uninstall if you dont want to put points into ws for ns

but yea scythe ranger aka bunny reaper or whatever you wish to call it does mass dmg too.. bring reapers sweep and its like gg whatever along with crippling victory and ermites
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Old Jan 09, 2008, 12:29 PM // 12:29   #22
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But WD has a massive recharge
And a massive duration. Natural stride would require a (massive) investment in Wilderness Survival in a build (see OP) that will have little use for other skills in that line. NS requires at leas 10 in WS to make it as efficient (time/recycle/blocking) as Lightning Reflexes and Whirling Defense at usual expertise (12-14) levels.
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Old Jan 09, 2008, 11:08 PM // 23:08   #23
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And a massive duration.
Yes but if you take expertise to be 10 and WS to also be 10.

In one minute you can active WD once, it will last for 16 seconds (not so huge but *shrugs* ) for 10 energy (6 taking into account Expertise).

In one minute you can active NS a total of 5 times, it will last a total of 30 seconds for 25 energy (15 energy taking into account Expertise).

So actually from 60 seconds you would get a longer duration from NS and its not hard to run a 10 exp, 10 WS build. In fact its quite common.

I suppose its really down to your personal preference, but for me WD feels like it constricts me and I would pick NS's versatility any day.
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Old Jan 10, 2008, 12:18 AM // 00:18   #24
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You seem to miss the point that you still need to invest heavily in Wilderness Survival to make NS work a bit while Expertise is an attribute you'll normally invest in anyway.

This thread - and question - specifically is about a ranger + pet for PvE and committing points in Wilderness Survival just to get 4-5 sec worth of 50% block is not likely the best option available in defense. You can not separate the skill from the bar.
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