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chicks boy · Oct 17, 2006, 10:16 PM // 22:16

i dont get how shout/echo ends, then echo is reapplied to it??? can any1 explain this 2 me. make it more understandable than guildwiki tried to explain it...

Zinger314 · Oct 17, 2006, 10:20 PM // 22:20

It's not rocket science...

When a Shout or Chant ends on a target affected by an Echo, the echo is either renewed for another 20 seconds (Refrains) or triggers an effect (Finales)

chicks boy · Oct 17, 2006, 10:22 PM // 22:22

so basically like this:

- Cast Shout on ally
- Ally has "Shout"
- When that "Shout" ends, target affected by an Echo.
- So an echo .. is what??? Arcane echo? that skill by mesmer???

Zinger314 · Oct 17, 2006, 10:45 PM // 22:45

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Echo is another type of skill...

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Shakti · Oct 17, 2006, 11:56 PM // 23:56

Echo is a TYPE of skill or spell....

you cast the Echo...it's in effect...then you use the shout/chant whatever...when that shout/chant ends, either the Echo is renewed for awhile or it triggers another little bonus, see?

TadaceAce · Oct 18, 2006, 01:33 AM // 01:33

Here is an interesting question, when a shout ends and triggers a refrain, does the previous refrain end before it is renewed thus triggering finales?

Meaning when a shout ends does like energizing finale trigger once or twice if you have a refrain on you.

Zinger314 · Oct 18, 2006, 01:36 AM // 01:36

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Originally Posted by TadaceAce

Meaning when a shout ends does like energizing finale trigger once or twice if you have a refrain on you.

Finales only proc on Shouts and Chants. Refrains are Echoes. Do the math.

WLlama · Oct 18, 2006, 02:17 AM // 02:17

Be careful not to confuse an echo with the mesmer 'Arcane Echo' enchantment spell or 'Echo' elite enchantment spell.

After the skills name in the description, it will say Echo. Example: Bladeturn Refrain - Echo. For 20 seconds, target ally ...
A mesmer spell for comparison: Arcane Echo - Enchanment Spell. If you cast a spell in the...

unholy guardian · Oct 19, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

Finales only proc on Shouts and Chants. Refrains are Echoes. Do the math.

are you feeling alright? A lot of your resent posts seems to be quite negative to people

Anyway a lot of people mentioned it already.

The "echo" is a mesmer elite, totally seperate from the skills classifed as echos that the paragon has.

Finales do what the name suggest, they activate when a shout or chant ends on that ally.

Refrains can be reapplied when a shout or chant ends on that ally, so really you could potentially keep it on them as long as they live. If you use watch yourself though for the effects, you have to make sure you and your teamtes do not use it before 1 is already over, otherwise nothing really "ends"

Spura · Oct 19, 2006, 08:41 AM // 08:41

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Originally Posted by unholy guardian

are you feeling alright? A lot of your resent posts seems to be quite negative to people

It was a stupid question considering that the types of skills involved are VERY clear.

Description of any finale clearly states "chants or shouts" and refrains are echoes.

Guardian of the Light · Oct 19, 2006, 02:01 PM // 14:01

Echo = http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Echo_%28skill_type%29