Curse

African War Lord · Feb 17, 2007, 05:26 PM // 17:26

Don't see many paragons in RA. I wanted to try one out and this is the build I ended up using.

[skill]Finale of restoration[/skill] [skill]Anthem of flame[/skill] [skill]Barbed spear[/skill] [skill]Go for the eyes[/skill] [skill]Vicious attack[/skill] [skill]Mending refrain[/skill] [skill]Song of restoration[/skill] [skill]Resurrection signet[/skill]

att:
15 spear
13 motivation
6 leadership
5 command

Is this just a ranged wammo? It seemed pretty effective but not against a good monk. Any suggestions?

Patrick Smit · Feb 17, 2007, 06:15 PM // 18:15

I have seen some song of restoration paragons in RA they usually escape the first screen for healing potential, untill you are wondering how they get the heals in. I would switch vicious attack for merciless spear (applied when target is under 50% health, deep wound will be applied at the right time, when the victim is in face with death ^^.

I prefer more aggresive builds, and rely for healing on other chars. But i guess this will be a bit more sturdy then my build. (i use agressive refrain, focussed anger and mending touch instead of the healing skills)

Against good monks just don't focus fire on that target, try to switch, and probe what are the weak points in the team (overextenders, other squishies with too much runes, the monk is good in self healing, but not others). Damage being spread over 2 or more characters can pressure monks to divide attention.

clawofcrimson · Feb 19, 2007, 03:17 PM // 15:17

Edit: I deleted my ignorant posts (didnt notice the first skill =/ ) which you can see in the quotes....

overall I think the build is pretty good for ra, although I'm not a fan of motivation.

Milan-V · Feb 19, 2007, 03:59 PM // 15:59

This build is wammo'ish crimson :P

Spam the easy to get shout/chants and get +50 hp for it, and you also have +3 regen.
I would use Cruel Spear instead of Song of Restauration thou, and also Spear of Lightning above Vicious Throw

African War Lord · Feb 19, 2007, 10:20 PM // 22:20

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Originally Posted by clawofcrimson

the recharge times in RA will kill you.....

you haven't even tried my build out lol.. or you'd know that sor is not even my main heal and somewhat an optional slot right now.

I have +4 regen on my whole team if they stick together, and I get healed 60+ eveytime anthem of flame and go for the eye's trigger and a super heal when sor is ready since it will also trigger finale of restoration. All the heals are great but they also help the team do more damage. I usually try to put finale on the monk aswell that way he's well protected.

thx for the suggestions guys but the reason I don't use cruel or merciless spear is they slow down my adrenaline gain.

I still would like a better elite though not sure quite what.

Milan-V · Feb 20, 2007, 04:17 PM // 16:17

I tried it, multiple times and it works very good acually. I used my changements (spear of lightning, cruel spear).

Milan-V · Feb 20, 2007, 06:15 PM // 18:15

If you wanna go wammo way, then why ever think about others? XD

This build is good for your own, not in team-based way.

African War Lord · Feb 21, 2007, 01:26 AM // 01:26

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Originally Posted by clawofcrimson

-.-

I have tried many many motivation/command builds like this one....

...you will have to micro manage the mending refrain if you want it on your whole team... at a pretty hefty energy cost... (wammos dont heal other's anyway btw....) I would drop the motivation line altogether unless you want to commit more skills to it.... leader's comfort is a perfectly fine heal....much better than 90hp heal every 15 seconds...with basically a mending up +3 regen.....

typically the most effective builds don't have both command 'and' motivation

Leader's comfort it takes too long to cast and this isn't a leadership build. I get way more heals with this I don't know where your getting your numbers from. +67 heal from anthem of flame every 10 seconds. 67 more from go for the eye's every what 5 seconds or less? then SOR heals for 82 + 67 every 15. That on top of the +4 regen and 111 AL it's more than durable.

It's damage output is what I don't like. He's more durable than a wammo I'd say but his damage is about the same which can be dealt with by any competent healer. It's kind of a pointless build but gives people the chance to feel powerfull in RA with a paragon that's about it!!

Austin O · Feb 21, 2007, 01:31 AM // 01:31

What does RA mean?

divinechancellor · Feb 21, 2007, 01:59 AM // 01:59

random arena
TA is team arena
HA is heros ascent

its pvp arenas

Milan-V · Feb 21, 2007, 02:55 PM // 14:55

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Originally Posted by African War Lord

Leader's comfort it takes too long to cast and this isn't a leadership build. I get way more heals with this I don't know where your getting your numbers from. +67 heal from anthem of flame every 10 seconds. 67 more from go for the eye's every what 5 seconds or less? then SOR heals for 82 + 67 every 15. That on top of the +4 regen and 111 AL it's more than durable.

It's damage output is what I don't like. He's more durable than a wammo I'd say but his damage is about the same which can be dealt with by any competent healer. It's kind of a pointless build but gives people the chance to feel powerfull in RA with a paragon that's about it!!

Basic kill thing: anthem of flame, cruel spear, spear of lightning, barbed spear.

African War Lord · Feb 21, 2007, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by clawofcrimson

um... how are you getting heals from anthem of flame and GFTE?????

I'm not sure I understand.... you can only spam SOR (your ONLY straight heal) once every 15 seconds.... and you get 67 health back from it....(sor triggers after you use the skill and then its gone)

leader's comfort is quite obviously more spammable.... and the casting time is not that much different than many heals out there....my point is... if you are going motivation...commit more points/skills to it ....or it becomes useless

Why don't you go back and actually read the skills I'm using? Or better yet go try the damn build before you judge me. You've made like 3 posts bashing my build and you don't even know what finale of restoration does... and all these dots... are rude...

Milan-V · Feb 21, 2007, 03:23 PM // 15:23

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Originally Posted by clawofcrimson

um... how are you getting heals from anthem of flame and GFTE?????

I'm not sure I understand.... you can only spam SOR (your ONLY straight heal) once every 15 seconds.... and you get 67 health back from it....(sor triggers after you use the skill and then its gone)

leader's comfort is quite obviously more spammable.... and the casting time is not that much different than many heals out there....my point is... if you are going motivation...commit more points/skills to it ....or it becomes useless

Attack interval spear = 1.25
Adrenalin needed for GFTE = 4
4x1.25=5

So you can get 64 every 5 secs, I suggest you read the skill again :P

clawofcrimson · Feb 21, 2007, 03:45 PM // 15:45

OMG I never saw the first skill ...lol I'm so sorry please forgive an ignorant fool. I usually put all my heals on the right side

I am oficially a moron...

the buid looks just fine

Im gonna go and delete all my ignorance :P

and dont mind the dots... its just the way I type

Turbobusa · Feb 21, 2007, 06:13 PM // 18:13

do you keep recasting FoR or you just choose the allies on which you put it?
cause even at 16 motivation you cant keep it up on 4 characters.
is 6 leadership enough? seems a bit low to be since you only have 1 adrenal skill with skills you cast on recharge.

otherwise seems to be a good use of FoR.

Jetdoc · Feb 21, 2007, 08:14 PM // 20:14

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Originally Posted by Milan-V

Attack interval spear = 1.25
Adrenalin needed for GFTE = 4
4x1.25=5

So you can get 64 every 5 secs, I suggest you read the skill again :P

The attack interval for a spear is 1.5, so it's every 6 seconds, to be precise.

African War Lord · Feb 21, 2007, 08:17 PM // 20:17

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Originally Posted by clawofcrimson

OMG I never saw the first skill ...lol I'm so sorry please forgive an ignorant fool. I usually put all my heals on the right side

I am oficially a moron...

the buid looks just fine

Im gonna go and delete all my ignorance :P

and dont mind the dots... its just the way I type

I honestly didn't expect that from you man ; ] Your a better person than I thought, and you are forgiven and please forgive me aswell for being rude.

I find 6 leadership to be enough because that will give me 3 energy for every shout I cast if everyone is hit with it. Leadership's only use in this build is to gain energy and you'll see energy is almost always at full.

With finale, I usually keep it on myself and 1 other member, the monk or whoever I feel will be attacked first. It's slightly possible to keep it on 3 members but you need to really be on the ball for that.

clawofcrimson · Feb 21, 2007, 08:58 PM // 20:58

yeah no problem... it was pretty early and the coffee hadn't kicked in yet

Spura · Feb 21, 2007, 11:05 PM // 23:05

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Originally Posted by Milan-V

Attack interval spear = 1.25

1.5 sec

Thus 6 sec to charge not 5.