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Old Aug 25, 2007, 02:49 PM // 14:49   #1
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Hello everyone,

I need help to find builds for a solo parangon.

With GWEN there are lots of solo quest, and my poor parangon who was the ultimate party leader became, well, useless when alone.

With no allies I can't get mana back when shouting or singing, and most of chants affect the whole party but are quite expensive to buff only myself.

I'd really appreciate suggestions an the subject.

Thanks for reading.
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Old Aug 26, 2007, 08:20 PM // 20:20   #2
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Treat paragon like you would a warrior. You have a weapon attribute, now you need some healing/removal skills. You can do like a wammo and get some healing from monk.
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Old Aug 31, 2007, 07:46 PM // 19:46   #3
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Or if youd rather not go with healing spells from monk you can run some motivation as in Mending Refrain or Finale of restoration and use GFTE to power these you dont even need to spec in command. And with gwen u get some great spear skills. so bring Aggressive Refrain but be sure to bring 2 sets of spears a +energy set and a zealous set. Because since your solo your gonna have to rely on your constant attacks to gain energy. Just be sure to recast Finale of Restoration w/e you can.
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Old Sep 01, 2007, 12:34 PM // 12:34   #4
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For Man-o a Norn-o and Bear Club for Women I applied mending refrain at 13 motivation, then used Ursan Blessing and just spammed the first 3 skills at them. Ursan Roar recharges fast enough to keep mending refrain up. I was at level 3 on the Norn title track at the time.

Those are the only solo-quest I've attempted yet that require much work in setting up your build. The PvE only skills may be the key to victory here.
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Old Sep 02, 2007, 12:31 AM // 00:31   #5
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I've defeated every opponent in Norn tourny with a single pure paragon build.
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Old Sep 02, 2007, 01:59 AM // 01:59   #6
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I've defeated every opponent in Norn tourny with a single pure paragon build.
Care to tell us the build ?

Personally I suck at making builds, especially when a major component that I've used in my other builds (in this case the energy from leadership) is removed. So when it costs 100 gold each time (or at least thats the impression I get from guildwiki) I'm not going to be playing around with new builds and wasting my gold.

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Old Sep 02, 2007, 02:45 AM // 02:45   #7
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I've defeated every opponent in Norn tourny with a single pure paragon build.
Please, any help soloing would be truly appreciated
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Old Sep 02, 2007, 07:44 AM // 07:44   #8
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Uh yes, bison was my bane. P/Rit (restoration) blindness & Generous Was Tsungrai was the best i've come up but against bison it's not working, energy issues, yes it' was a silly build.

edit: Magni has been beaten, it's 90% paragon. My build code is below, and yes, it was supposed to be P/R for poison prep. but i scratched that idea, as this one is better.

OQKlgploJeioHBkpgZhZTOT2ulihiB

Barbed Spear
Blazing Spear
"Go for The Eyes!"
"You Move Like a Dwarf!"
"I'm the Strongest!"
Soldier's Fury {elite}
Finale of Restoration
Burning Refrain .

Before magni, you can basically murder most of them sometimes in seconds. As for magni..

Condition slapping, kite with "Dwarf!" when he's bear, keep those echos up. I got lucky with my fight because the crowd sometimes healed me for 180+, well many times actually. Use the "Strongest" shout sometimes to buff up your damage. Better yet, keep kiting him & slapping those degens the less he hits you the better. Dont worry about the Purge Signet, he'll get it off eventually but you'll put the conditions back faster but honestly, it wasn't easy as my build has no defensive skills, so try to win that crowd on your side.


as a tip, it seems that if you're aggressive enough you'll get the crowds help. From the first fight to the last one. And Yes, it did feel Very Good to see him lose finally !

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Old Sep 03, 2007, 06:12 AM // 06:12   #9
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Uh yes, bison was my bane. P/Rit (restoration) blindness & Generous Was Tsungrai was the best i've come up but against bison it's not working, energy issues, yes it' was a silly build.

edit: Magni has been beaten, it's 90% paragon. My build code is below, and yes, it was supposed to be P/R for poison prep. but i scratched that idea, as this one is better.

OQKlgploJeioHBkpgZhZTOT2ulihiB

Barbed Spear
Blazing Spear
"Go for The Eyes!"
"You Move Like a Dwarf!"
"I'm the Strongest!"
Soldier's Fury {elite}
Finale of Restoration
Burning Refrain .

Before magni, you can basically murder most of them sometimes in seconds. As for magni..

Condition slapping, kite with "Dwarf!" when he's bear, keep those echos up. I got lucky with my fight because the crowd sometimes healed me for 180+, well many times actually. Use the "Strongest" shout sometimes to buff up your damage. Better yet, keep kiting him & slapping those degens the less he hits you the better. Dont worry about the Purge Signet, he'll get it off eventually but you'll put the conditions back faster but honestly, it wasn't easy as my build has no defensive skills, so try to win that crowd on your side.


as a tip, it seems that if you're aggressive enough you'll get the crowds help. From the first fight to the last one. And Yes, it did feel Very Good to see him lose finally !
Excellent, will give it a try later.

Thanks!

Edit: Without that crowd it is awfully tough. I cruised through all of the previous rounds though.

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Old Sep 03, 2007, 09:26 AM // 09:26   #10
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Thanks!

Edit: Without that crowd it is awfully tough. I cruised through all of the previous rounds though.
Indeed, i was trying to redo the match but i failed miserably because i didn't get any heals, tried like 20 times. I dont know whats going on with it today..What i know is, it's usually the dwarf at the right corner of Magni's spawn who heals, unless they randomly re-position around the ring. Bleh :/


Brainstorming some possibilities..We dont want him to hit us..so. Too bad our own KD proof skill doesn't work on us "Brace Yourself!" but "I'm unstoppable!" does though. So, "I'm unstoppable!" along with..

P/N would work if spamming Weakness sticks on him, there is just no way to tank him without it. "FoR" ; Finale of Restatoration ; could probably keep up when he's weakened, it's a big maybe as the combos he do are devastating. Edit: Tried this, this wont work because once he gets the weakness on you, it's game over pretty much, as the other skills exploit this condition for more damage.

P/W - Stance Para - "Gladiator's Defense" still getting KD'd because of Irresistible Blow, so the other "Block" stances suffer the same problem. Not so good choice i'm afraid.

P/Mesmer however, might be one of the better choices that works as Ineptitude is a "cheap" way to blind for 10 seconds but magni must be tricked to waste his signet so that hex can work it's magic. Getting hit though doesn't feel that good though .

P/Elementalist ; Glimmering Mark with a proper weapon probably a shocking sword (spear? if there is, havent ever seen or looted one). Only 5 seconds of blindness though, might get heavy on energy in the long run.

P/Assassin: has some neat ways to blind & apply conditions but very heavy on energy. I have yet to try these so i cant say anything else.

Damage wise these all will lack the punch, some fights will be rather.. long like vs monks. - as "I'm the strongest" & Soldier's Fury .. are so good combined with the degen.

Other possibility is P/Rit with Wailing Weapon, so Magni is constantly interrupted. With a little Kiting with "Dwarf" so you can redo the enchant, sounds simple & effective. Long recharge on the skill though so it might get ugly later. Blind + interrupt is the way to go if you want to stand Toe to Toe against .. It's a very tough fight for us, it wasn't my build that defeated him i was just lucky with the npc heals. Good luck to you all and maybe i can share some of my luck to you too .

EDIT: Think i found something.

P/Elementalist : Blinding Surge - around 7 second of blindness & 4 second of recharge for 10 energy. Which is almost one shout/chant with 12 leadership. If you keep on the routine you can keep Magni blinded all the time, except for the Purge Signet moments. Blinding Flash has a longer blindness but it costs 5 more energy to use. However, there is little to no room for errors. Im gonna see if this will make a solid build.

^ Nope above i couldn't get it to work well and we're back at the low-damage issue without Soldier's Fury and Aggressive Refrain hogs all the energy that is needed. it feels a little hopeless. If we use those title minions to help us out, they just get 1-shot to oblivion :P

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Old Sep 03, 2007, 04:01 PM // 16:01   #11
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Thank you all for the help.
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Old Sep 03, 2007, 05:35 PM // 17:35   #12
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Well I can get to magni every time with just using mending refrain and ursan blessing. The shout keeps mending refrain up throughout, however the knockdown skill doesnt recharge fast enough to kite him effectively.
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Old Sep 03, 2007, 09:05 PM // 21:05   #13
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I use this:

10 leadership
14 motivation
12 spear

I have lvl 2 in all titles.

"You move like a dwarf!"
Awe
GTFE
Barbed spear
Nonsensical Spear
Finale of Restoration
Focused Anger[e]
Optional (Vanguard Assassin Support currently)

This easily kills all of opponents I've had including bison. There's a bit of skill involved in it, since different approaches are needed for each opponent.

I haven't faced Nika, Panaku, Silverwing, Palawa Joko, Koss and Norgu yet. The only one who I think could be trouble is Nika with her Siphon speed. Tomorrow I will explain how to fight each opponent.
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Old Sep 03, 2007, 10:40 PM // 22:40   #14
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On second thought, I could probably nail her siphon speed with KD and daze, making her attack chain kinda useless.
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Old Sep 03, 2007, 11:23 PM // 23:23   #15
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Sorry for my ignorance, but what does GTFE stand for?
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Old Sep 03, 2007, 11:57 PM // 23:57   #16
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go for the eyes
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Old Sep 04, 2007, 07:47 PM // 19:47   #17
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Ok, generally:

- 7 sec before start cast Finale of Restoration
- 0 sec use Focused Anger

You run into arena hugging the left wall. This way you will always have spectators in earshot, making 5 energy from GFTE. You should have 20 energy when you engage.

Generally you need to be careful with your energy. Don't spam things you don't need, like cripple on casters and daze on rangers.

To maintain daze on casters, concentrate on spamming GFTE and daze combo only. Use Barbed spear but sparsely cos it decreases GFTE spam. Daze is acually 12 seconds long, so don't panic if the daze skill has recharged and you don't have 20 energy for combo yet.

So when you make contact with the enemy remember:
- If you are not gonna daze, KD with shout at aggro distance(especially melee) so you get plenty of time to use barbed and nonsensical spear to apply cripple
- If you are gonna daze, remember Awe has HALF RANGE. So run deep into earshot. Generally I will keep running toward the target till it tries to cast something then KD it to interrupt and apply daze.

Devona:

This one is easy. Daze her with KD shout + Awe, then just keep attacking her. You can easily tank her damage. Daze will take care of shadow refuge, use Assassin often and use KD shout to nail her heal sig.

Warmaster Tydius

Just tank him using GTFE to heal and barbed spear and assassin summon. Save KD shout for his Troll Unguent.

Cynn

Nail her with daze and keep it up. Don't stop to renew Finale of rest, just keep hitting her and dazing her.

Danika and pigs

Go for Brutus first(blood necro), cos he is gonna be most damaging. Then Sheena and then Danika. Pigs are lvl 10 so they will be taking loads of damage. Keep up Finale of rest and daze them if possible.

Argo, Lo Sha, Orion, Xandra

Same as Cynn.

Eve

Same as Cynn. Be sure to use KD shout to interrupt her first spell(probably SS)

Ghostly hero, Morgahn

Same as warmaster tydius. Just keep attacking him and save KD shout for his Troll.

Gwen

KD her + daze. KD shout cripples. Apply bleed and cripple with attack skills and kite, cos she will be trying to get into touch range for signet of midnight.


Headmaster Vhang

Generally I interrupt his first spell (mind shock). Alternatively you can let it happen and wait to get back up before doing the daze combo. From then on it is same as Cynn.

Koss

Just heal through him. I think he uses heal sig, you might want to keep KD shout ready for that.


Kisai

Same as Cynn. Try to nail the first spell, it could be glimmering mark.

Alesia and Kilroy

These 2 wammos have Healing hands. If you don't interrupt, kite them around a bit.

Kahmu, Little Thom, Lukas, Melonni, Sogolon

Same as other melee. Just tank it, if it starts to be a problem, try kiting.

Mehnlo

Easy. You will probably nail his balthazar's and mending. Causing him to die in like 5 sec.

The Great Zehtuka

Just drive him all around the place. When he runs in to make a trap, if the first attack doesn't disrupt, pull back, don't risk getting hit by traps. Save KD for his Troll's.

Vekk

Same as Cynn. Watch out for his first spell, Blurred Vision, try to interrupt or daze before his cast.

Zho and Onyx

I just kited his around a bit. Use assassin or KD to nail his Troll's.

Magni

Just kite him around your spawn. Keep spamming assasin, bleeding, cripple. If he gets close enough to make a swing, use KD to interrupt him in the middle of attack and run away. Eventually he will die. Generally you don't need a heal.



I haven't defeated palawa joko yet. And I haven't met a bunch of them that are missing.

Also be aware of healing from the crowd. If opponent is melee and is getting healed, pull him to the other side of arena. If opponent is ranged, it will be impossible to pull him out of healer's range. In that case, slowly(because in case of casters, you need to have frequent attacks to keep interrupting), make your way to a point between the healer and the opponent. Then he will stop getting healed.

Healer is usually in far right part of the crowd, but sometimes he is elsewhere. He is easily recognizable, being the only short, fat, BALD dwarf in the crowd. He also has recognizable silver staff.
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Old Sep 05, 2007, 08:58 AM // 08:58   #18
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Thanks for that Spura as i had completely forgotten that we have Awe so i modified another build using Awe with Soldier's Fury.

Build Code: OQCjUqnK6SAZWYmhlY2k0kpYtbA

Barbed Spear
Go for the Eyes
Maiming Spear
Awe
You move like a Dwarf!
I am unstoppable!
Finale of Restoration
Soldier's Fury

This build gives you high DPS for 16 seconds (rank dependant) with "I am Unstoppable!". It can beat even Dinka, both Assassins, the melee with scorpion as a pet but you have to get that Awe & "You move like a Dwarf!" right, if it fails it's over :P. GFTE is your main source of healing. "I am unstoppable!" counters Devonas KD skills nicely too. If you want higher burst damage switch "I am unstoppable!" with "I am the strongest!".

Beating Magni is easy, start with Soldier's Fury + "Dwarf!" + I am unstoppable, when they run out start the kiting with Barbed + Maiming + Dwarf, if you can use the Soldier's Fury with Unstoppable when you have enough range. If things go right, he wont even catch up.

As a tip for kiting, if you go back to your spawn locations door, magni goes back to his giving you free time to do what you want to. although, this seems to be a bug imo.

Warriors with healing signet should be simple, just save "Dwarf!" for that moment although devona was being a major pain :P, lasted longer than magni.

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Old Sep 07, 2007, 10:46 AM // 10:46   #19
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^As you have I am unstoppable I take it you beat the glacier griffon, could you share how you did that?
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umm, the griffon. I kited it until it had wasted the spirits, so i would be out of their range. In the end, the griffon became passive (doh) near a wall, didn't move only kept spawning some spirits near it. I just kept hitting it with my Blazing & barbed spear(s) - sort of an anti-climax :P.

The new paragon skill that hurts summoned creatures would be nice for this, Holy Spear that is.

Focused Anger {e}
Fall Back! - optional, but mostly for kiting if things get ugly.
Leaders Comfort - optional self heal but just for backup.
Finalize Restoration
Go for the Eyes
Barbed Spear
Blazing Spear
Holy Spear : Throw it at the spirit and the numbers will fly . It causes burning & damage all nearby enemies, the griffon is always next to them.
Or
Maiming Spear - to help with kiting.

As long as you're not getting hit by it or the spirits you will be fine.

edit: dug out the skills name. If you want to have Holy Spear & Maiming, leave Blazing out of the build.

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