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Tundra · Nov 06, 2008, 03:43 PM // 15:43

Uhm, hey. Listen, I had a question. I have been playing paragon for a while and now I have some nice titles on her and some good items, many elite skills, but I have big problem with money. Usualy I don't have more than 5k in my inventory and that is kinda annoying. How do you earn money with your paragons - fariming, running?

And yeah, how do you feel, îIsnt it a bit hard to get in groups for elite missions (like FoW, DoA, UW etc) with your paragon?

Molock · Nov 06, 2008, 03:58 PM // 15:58

I would use another profession to farm with..

acastillo666 · Nov 06, 2008, 04:09 PM // 16:09

Ok well paragons are not the money making class. they are the fun class that u have to love in order to play. I have a warrior with 19 maxed titles and Obby armor and a couple of req 8 weps. THE main point is i got the Armor and all my money for my weaponry farming with my assassin(chaos plains farm mostly). i love my warrior its just a great class to pve with just like a paragon but they dont really "bring home the bacon" as eles, sins, or even monks. GW gives u 4-8 character slots do make what u like. dont just choose one class and run with it try out the other classes also, most of them are really fun. the real truth is the MOST valuable farm is farming ecto(if ur solo) and if u have about 8 friends the BEST TEAM farm run is the DOA HM cryway with a permasin tank.with the solo farm u will make money but spend it just as fast. and with DOA u will have a paragon in fully obby with a req9 voltaic, and the sheild of ur dreams in a week!!! just go to the farming forum on this site and look at all the fun builds their are.

Neith · Nov 06, 2008, 04:13 PM // 16:13

i have a friend who does droks runs on his paragon..

Captain Bulldozer · Nov 06, 2008, 04:33 PM // 16:33

While its true that Paragons, warriors and Rangers usually don't have as many farming builds as some of the other professions, there is a nice and easy way a Paragon can make a lot of money. Remember that HFFF can be done with any profession as long as you have three heros. Even though its incredibly boring, HFFF is still one of the most reliable ways to make cash in the game. When you get the run down, you can make 450g in a minute which translates into 27k an hour and that doesn't include all the extra XP and Faction you'll be making. The faction can be converted to gold by buying amber chunks or Jadeite Shards and selling them to the trader as well, for a little extra cash. I know several people who have made well over a million gold from just HFFFing on the Kurzick side, and its a pretty easy thing to get down. Might be just the thing for your money worries!

furanshisuko · Nov 06, 2008, 04:47 PM // 16:47

actually any profession can run cryway but this is not really necesary for DoA the thing is that people like easy builds (cryway/old ursan) anyways here is a good thread from one of my alliance guilds [GoE] which seams to be really nice

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ght=life+ursan

joshuarodger · Nov 06, 2008, 05:03 PM // 17:03

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Originally Posted by Captain Bulldozer

Remember that HFFF can be done with any profession as long as you have three heros. Even though its incredibly boring, HFFF is still one of the most reliable ways to make cash in the game. When you get the run down, you can make 450g in a minute which translates into 27k an hour

it's actually only 150 gold per run and, after zoning into and out of town, you can't do more than one run every 2 minutes, and that's if you know the run and flag positions extremely well. that comes to 30 runs per hour which is 4.5k. if you have leechers for every single run, which isn't very likely, and you charge 100 gold each (generally i charge 75 because you get people faster), that's an extra 6k per hour. this comes to a grand total of 10.5k. that's a far cry from your 27k per hour, especially since most people can't do an HFFF kurzick run in under 2 minutes.

having said all that, HFFF is still a reliable, steady source of money. it's just not as fast as bulldozer makes it out to be and it is boring as hell.

wind fire and ice · Nov 06, 2008, 05:36 PM // 17:36

Make an ele or sin,use it for farming,play your paragon for every thing else.

Taisayacho · Nov 06, 2008, 06:16 PM // 18:16

Run Imbagon and do uberfast FoW/UW runs.

Or, make a monk/sin/whatever and go farm with that.

Richardt · Nov 06, 2008, 08:31 PM // 20:31

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Originally Posted by Tundra

And yeah, how do you feel, Isnt it a bit hard to get in groups for elite missions (like FoW, DoA, UW etc) with your paragon?

If I was to PuG, yes it would be hard. But with my guild/alliance, I never have any problems (hell....I lead most of them).

As for how I make money on my para, it's by doing HM stuff, and I hardly ever farm.

Icy The Mage · Nov 06, 2008, 09:11 PM // 21:11

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Originally Posted by joshuarodger

it's actually only 150 gold per run and, after zoning into and out of town, you can't do more than one run every 2 minutes, and that's if you know the run and flag positions extremely well. that comes to 30 runs per hour which is 4.5k. if you have leechers for every single run, which isn't very likely, and you charge 100 gold each (generally i charge 75 because you get people faster), that's an extra 6k per hour. this comes to a grand total of 10.5k. that's a far cry from your 27k per hour, especially since most people can't do an HFFF kurzick run in under 2 minutes.

having said all that, HFFF is still a reliable, steady source of money. it's just not as fast as bulldozer makes it out to be and it is boring as hell.

Para is fastest for HFFF, I've seen para's run HFF in 45 or less seconds, leaving 15 seconds for loading/walking to entrance, which can be further sped up by eating sweets that give you a sugar rush. Charging 100g/person, and filling up 3 slots, is definitely not hard, especially if you can do a run every minute. The only thing left out of this calculation would be the time it takes to zone to and from HzH, and wait for everyone to get their faction.

So Yes, he is correct in saying that 27k/hr is feasible.

-Lotus- · Nov 06, 2008, 09:28 PM // 21:28

just play elite areas as an imbagon. plenty of money there.

Luminarus · Nov 06, 2008, 10:28 PM // 22:28

I can do 1 HFFF run per minute, I generally dont bring leechers but when I do I charge 75g each, and its easy money.

Electric Friend · Nov 06, 2008, 10:36 PM // 22:36

Start Vanquishing areas with people, you'll certainly get an ass load of items and gold for vanquishing. I like to farm spiders in the Plains of Jarin with Raven Blessing. Just hide behind a hill and swoop away...

Luminarus · Nov 06, 2008, 11:00 PM // 23:00

If ur hiding behind the hill, theres better skills to use. Try... spiteful spirit, visions of regret etc. It doesnt matter that ur a paragon, just go P/N or P/Me

Lishy · Nov 07, 2008, 01:08 AM // 01:08

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Originally Posted by Luminarus

If ur hiding behind the hill, theres better skills to use. Try... spiteful spirit, visions of regret etc. It doesnt matter that ur a paragon, just go P/N or P/Me

Bad advice is bad.
Firstly, improve your grammar.
Secondly, necro/mes is completely a disadvantage to paragons. It isn't "Getting better skills", when you can make great use of your primary, by going imbagon or TPIY.
Thirdly, how the HELL does that help make money?

Luminarus · Nov 07, 2008, 01:35 AM // 01:35

Lol Learn To Read... hes talking about farming the spiders outside sunspear great hall from behind the rock. I was saying use a better elite rather then raven. Geesh...

Shasgaliel · Nov 07, 2008, 01:34 PM // 13:34

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Originally Posted by acastillo666

Ok well paragons are not the money making class. they are the fun class that u have to love in order to play. I have a warrior with 19 maxed titles and Obby armor and a couple of req 8 weps. THE main point is i got the Armor and all my money for my weaponry farming with my assassin(chaos plains farm mostly). i love my warrior its just a great class to pve with just like a paragon but they dont really "bring home the bacon" as eles, sins, or even monks. GW gives u 4-8 character slots do make what u like. dont just choose one class and run with it try out the other classes also, most of them are really fun. the real truth is the MOST valuable farm is farming ecto(if ur solo) and if u have about 8 friends the BEST TEAM farm run is the DOA HM cryway with a permasin tank.with the solo farm u will make money but spend it just as fast. and with DOA u will have a paragon in fully obby with a req9 voltaic, and the sheild of ur dreams in a week!!! just go to the farming forum on this site and look at all the fun builds their are.

Hmm I was farming with my warrior before factions were out. I wonder where you got the idea that you cannot in a fast way farm with warrior and just waste time creating a sin or something like this used mostly as I understood your post for money grinding and not for playing....

Anyway back to topic. For solo farming paragon is limited however there are possibilities :

1. You can farm as p/mo dead swords in HM in shattered ravines in NF (try pvx for build for this)
2. FOW P/x beach and cave farm (there should some builds here on Guru for that since the one on pvx is not the best one apparently)
3.solo UW:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10329208

You can of course join the farming groups. Paragons are very successful in DOA. You can use the team build GOE uses posted above or any other fast DOA HM clear that utilizes imbagon. HFFF was already mentioned in the posts above.

I think you can get a group to do FOW/UW/DOA with imbagon. I am doing full FOW clear on mine once a while. I recall people doing DOA with Imbagons even before Ursan nerf. I am not sure about pugging it though.

Keira Nightgale · Nov 07, 2008, 06:48 PM // 18:48

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Originally Posted by Shasgaliel

Hmm I was farming with my warrior before factions were out. I wonder where you got the idea that you cannot in a fast way farm with warrior and just waste time creating a sin or something like this used mostly as I understood your post for money grinding and not for playing....

Anyway back to topic. For solo farming paragon is limited however there are possibilities :

1. You can farm as p/mo dead swords in HM in shattered ravines in NF (try pvx for build for this)
2. FOW P/x beach and cave farm (there should some builds here on Guru for that since the one on pvx is not the best one apparently)
3.solo UW:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10329208

You can of course join the farming groups. Paragons are very successful in DOA. You can use the team build GOE uses posted above or any other fast DOA HM clear that utilizes imbagon. HFFF was already mentioned in the posts above.

I think you can get a group to do FOW/UW/DOA with imbagon. I am doing full FOW clear on mine once a while. I recall people doing DOA with Imbagons even before Ursan nerf. I am not sure about pugging it though.

Doa is dead atm, Unless you're German or join Icu/Agro.

Super Igor · Nov 08, 2008, 02:40 PM // 14:40

let me give you a hint, use storage and farm with diff profession. Although I have no idea how you found it hard getting into groups with an imbagon.