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Super Igor · Nov 08, 2008, 02:48 PM // 14:48

An imbagon build that deals damages spamming +damage attacks non-stop and is an imbagon at the same time!

Atts & Skills:

[build prof=p/w box spear=12+1+1 lead=11+1 command=6+1][blazing spear][holy spear][spear of redemption][soldier's fury][ebon battle standard of honor][theres nothing to fear][save yourselves!][theyre on fire!][/build]
Usage:
Cast your shouts, wards and soldiers fury start attacking, your attack will be almost always charged with adrenalline so just spam them to deal big dps, apply dw with gtfe + va.

Variants:

-Replace [holy spear] with [merciless spear] for some deep wound.
-Replace [ebon battle standard of honor] with [asuran scan] if you dont care about your party.
-Replace [ebon battle standard of honor] with [spear of fury] if you want to drown yourself in arenalline some more.

Pros:
-Big damages.

Cons:
-No rez, might not charge sy as fast, less free slots.

/discuss.

Abedeus · Nov 08, 2008, 02:56 PM // 14:56

You have one shout that will wear off after 1 attack, one not affecting you and one that will work half of the time.

So half of the time, your Elite is useless.

[/discussion]

Improvavel · Nov 08, 2008, 03:08 PM // 15:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Igor

An imbagon build that deals damages and is an imbagon at the same time!

/discuss.

Is there an imbagon that doesn't?

zelgadissan · Nov 08, 2008, 03:14 PM // 15:14

Abedeus beat me to it. Your only chance of making this work - which is by far subpar to Racthoh/Richardt/Snow/everybodyelse's Imbagons - is to have at least another paragon or two just jamming chants and shouts. Otherwise you have no IAS and no adrenaline gain for spamming SY, which is pretty much the entire point of an Imbagon.

[Morkai] · Nov 08, 2008, 04:14 PM // 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Will Heal You Ally

interested in fixing your grammar?

His grammar is fine. It's the spelling that's off. Lern2englishplz.

Tbh i'd prefer FA over SF.

Nii · Nov 08, 2008, 04:14 PM // 16:14

Abedeus has pretty much slaughtered your discussion, and I agree with him...

Flightmare · Nov 08, 2008, 05:05 PM // 17:05

I think it's just rushed, since s and d are next to eachother on the keyboard.
Yeah, really sloppy, rereading your post before you actually hit the button isn't much work.

ac1inferno · Nov 08, 2008, 05:31 PM // 17:31

[build prof=P/W spe=11+1+1 comma=8+1 lea=11+1][Spear of Lightning]["Go for the Eyes!"][Anthem of Flame]["Save Yourselves!" (Luxon)]["There's Nothing to Fear!"][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor][Focused Anger][Aggressive Refrain][/build]

Konig Des Todes · Nov 08, 2008, 05:58 PM // 17:58

Got a better build that can actually make use of Soldier's Fury.

Leadership=11+1+1
Spear Mastery=11+1
Command=8+1

[Blazing Spear][Spear of Redemption][spear of fury][soldier's Fury]["There's Nothing To Fear!"]["Save Yourselves!"]["They're on Fire!"][Anthem of Flame]

Maintain They're on fire and Anthem of Flame as much as possible. Keep you're enemies burning, almost no need for SY even.

Command points are there for the shield.

For the record, I use this build on my paragon - replacing SY for Signet of Return - and on my heroes, replacing the three PvE skills for Blazing Fanale, Signet of Return, and Go For The Eyes! (taking one point from Spear Mastery and putting it into Command)

Bobby2 · Nov 08, 2008, 06:18 PM // 18:18

Zoiks. What Abedeus said.

Super Igor · Nov 08, 2008, 08:48 PM // 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

You have one shout that will wear off after 1 attack, one not affecting you and one that will work half of the time.

So half of the time, your Elite is useless.

Thanks for pointing that out, was rushing a bit writing this so soz, fix'd.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berek

His grammar is fine. It's the spelling that's off. Lern2englishplz.

What he said, mah spellingz are leet + I was rushing and didnt bother re-reading it. Thought I would explain it to spelling police here, anyway, fix'd.

So generally I rushed it and now its should be OK.

/discuss.

zelgadissan · Nov 08, 2008, 09:55 PM // 21:55

I still don't like it. You've got three adrenaline attacks - none energy based - taking away from the adrenaline you could be using for Save Yourselves. Personally I'd say you need to choose one or the other, either all energy attacks and SY or adrenaline attacks without SY.

Super Igor · Nov 08, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34

Those attacks shouldnt interfere with sy! that much tbh, you would still be able to mantain it tbh.

AtomicMew · Nov 08, 2008, 11:44 PM // 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Igor

Those attacks shouldnt interfere with sy! that much tbh, you would still be able to mantain it tbh.

Actually, you wouldn't be able to maintain it. You need 6 attacks to charge SY! which is 6 seconds. SY! lasts 6 seconds.

Luminarus · Nov 08, 2008, 11:51 PM // 23:51

Assuming max kurz/luxon SY lasts for 6 seconds. Under a 33% IAS you hit 6 times in 6 seconds. This isnt enough to charge SY even given +33%. Its only 7.98 adrenaline (because of 33% not being very effective). This means you have atleast a 1 second downtime every 6. This is further increased by 1 second every time you use an adrenaline skill. Im sorry. But its not able to maintain SY unless you bring FGJ, or off character adrenaline support.

Osi Ri S · Nov 10, 2008, 02:59 PM // 14:59

Do you really need SY, TntF AND They're on Fire? Seems like useless overkill

zelgadissan · Nov 10, 2008, 03:32 PM // 15:32

"They're On Fire!" is to make sure that you always have a shout active for Soldier's Fury. Agreed though that it's probably a little on the excessive side. Pitching TNTF though just seems like blasphemy.

Axel Zinfandel · Dec 18, 2008, 07:25 AM // 07:25

[Imbagon V 2;OQGjUumKqSub9EhfPYBZAhxgvlA]

If you insist.

they both amount to the same, only this one is slightly harder to use.

avilia · Dec 18, 2008, 12:14 PM // 12:14

I like that you're trying to come up with variants to the standard imbagons, but i think you're looking at the wrong skill to change. [Focused Anger] cannot be replaced without severely affecting your ability to perform as an imbagon.

For increased damage at the cost of defense, i suggest [Swift Javelin][Vicious Attack][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor]["Save Yourselves!"]["I Am The Strongest!"]["For Great Justice!"][Focused Anger][Aggressive Refrain].
Inferior to the standard imbagon build imo (TNTF instead of IATS).

zelgadissan · Dec 18, 2008, 03:34 PM // 15:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel

[Imbagon V 2;OQGjUumKqSub9EhfPYBZAhxgvlA]

Please explain this one to me. Battle Rage ends on non adrenal skills, and your only other adrenal besides Battle Rage is SY, so you just auto-attack to fill it?

I understand you should probably always have the 4 adrenaline to get back into Battle Rage, but isn't that kinda counter-productive?