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greenreaper3 · Sep 22, 2008, 06:05 AM // 06:05

hey everyone. i just got the build for Sabway, along with heros, and runes. now, i must know

what are some good build for me, the paragon to use that will be good with Sabway?

im currently using wiki's SoR.. cause im noob like that lol

any suggestions are welcome, thanks

Luminarus · Sep 22, 2008, 07:05 AM // 07:05

With sabway you can pretty much run anything you want. A good bet would be a stunning strike build, cruel spear build, or the always faithful imbagon.

Richardt · Sep 22, 2008, 03:07 PM // 15:07

Sabway doesn't really matter what class you are when you use it-in fact it pretty synergizes with itself and leaves you out of the loop.

SoR won't really do much-so I'd go with what Luminarus suggested. Another alternative is that since Sabway lacks condition/hex removal, you can run [Song of Purification] and [hexbreaker aria] to make up for that lack (provided you're not running Imbagon of course).

EDIT: gwBBC code doesn't seem to be working

aleaf92 · Sep 22, 2008, 03:16 PM // 15:16

There is also a sticky called "my paragon's buddies". That would be better for you b/c it focuses around a paragon.

Luminarus · Sep 23, 2008, 05:38 AM // 05:38

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Originally Posted by Richardt

Another alternative is that since Sabway lacks condition/hex removal, you can run [Song of Purification] and [hexbreaker aria] to make up for that lack (provided you're not running Imbagon of course).

Sabway doesnt lack condition removal... or atleast it shouldnt. Ur running three necros. If one of them doesnt have foul feast ur not using ur head lol.

As for conditions, I modified my sabway to use a N/Mo healer rather then the N/Rt. Mainly works well since they buffed heroes use of dwaynas sorrow. With a minion army, pumps out better heals then life and protective was kaolai put together. Also allows dwaynas kiss and cure hex on the bar. WoH is also a better elite then wor.

Cant be bothered going into the details of the bar. If you want it gimme a shout. I prefer it to the N/Rt but im prejudiced against Resto rits.

Richardt · Sep 23, 2008, 04:12 PM // 16:12

Must be an updated Sabway-I used it when it first came out and it didn't have any condition removal on it, outside of that one Ritualist heal (can't think of the name).

dilan155 · Sep 23, 2008, 10:47 PM // 22:47

well i VQed a 4 man area today, and i ran a song of resto para and it worked out very well. When running with a larger party area you should switch it out for a good source of hex removal, you can use signet of removal from the monk line as an excellent source of hex and condition removal.

MercenaryKnight · Sep 24, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45

Empathic removal is a better elite imo for a paragon.

Luminarus · Sep 24, 2008, 12:49 AM // 00:49

Yeah, it was added in at the time they updated foul feast... musta been about 6 months ago now. I usually replace signet of lost souls on the healer for it. Coz of that, theres no need for mend body and soul now, so i made my own N/Mo version which im very happy with.

Usually I run with sabway, me, 1 hench monk, 1 hench earth ele, 2 ranged hench. Works fine most of the time, although I havent done much cantha or any tyria yet, so their hench builds mightnt work. In 4 man areas one healer should cut it... dont really need to go motigon imo.

-Lotus- · Sep 24, 2008, 03:31 AM // 03:31

play an imbagon, as usual. no other paragon builds compare in terms of effectiveness.

greenreaper3 · Sep 24, 2008, 04:52 AM // 04:52

imbagon it is

Luminarus · Sep 24, 2008, 06:16 AM // 06:16

I wish people would stop suggesting imbagon as the be all and end all of builds. Yes it helps, Yes it is great. No it doesnt replace all paragon builds... Hell, its boring after a short period as well. A monkey can spam all skills on recharge as well as a human can... well near enough.

Richardt · Sep 24, 2008, 04:03 PM // 16:03

In terms of damage reduction you can't compete with Imbagon. But in terms of being a DPS paragon, there's plenty of room for improvement.

Imbagon is fun, but it does get dull and stale after a while. That's why it's good to change things up with another build (I've been loving [[cruel spear] myself lately).

Silversword22 · Sep 24, 2008, 05:23 PM // 17:23

An imbagon works great in any situation, but if you're using sabway, I think you'll be okay without it, even in HM. I personally don't use sabway as much (since I love my para heroes

) but when I did I used stunning strike. You have other non-elite options to induce deep wound. Besides since you're using a lot of casters, why not bring defensive anthem?

dilan155 · Sep 24, 2008, 10:42 PM // 22:42

besides when running damage isn't really your biggest concern, its more hexes and stuff, and the only reason i ran song of resto build was there wasn't that many hexes or conditions in that area and i though why not use an extra heal. and if you really dont need another support you can run a cruel spear para, same setup as an imbagon except cruel spear is the one being spammed, its fairly efficient.

DarkSpirit · Sep 25, 2008, 12:03 AM // 00:03

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Originally Posted by dilan155

besides when running damage isn't really your biggest concern, its more hexes and stuff,

Exactly. I dont think sabway is the ideal team build for an Imbagon, since it lacks hex removal.

Rac's Paragon buddies team build is more suitable with Orders from the derv hero and Anthems from the other Paragon heroes.

Luminarus · Sep 25, 2008, 02:42 AM // 02:42

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Originally Posted by -Lotus-

name another paragon build that can compare with the imbagon and i will start suggesting that... I'll give you some time to think.

Yes imbagon is good, however it doesnt replace all paragon builds... I personally like running around with a good ol cruel spear build, or stunning strike.

Im never gonna say its not good. I just wish people would use their heads rather then spouting... ur a paragon, go imbagon...

Good: Yes
Fun: Yes (short term)
Better then other options: Yes
Only Option: Far from it...

Richardt · Sep 25, 2008, 03:55 AM // 03:55

But good healing, good placement and decent builds will make up for a lack of an imbagon. A strong source of damage can turn the battle more than massive damage negation. It really boils down to the situation that you're in.

Like I said before, in terms of damage negation, the Imbagon has no peer. But in terms of other kinds of support, there are better builds (and here I'm taking support to mean buffing damage as well).

In summary, you can run Imbagon and be effective everywhere, but you can achieve the same thing by playing smart.

greenreaper3 · Sep 26, 2008, 02:47 AM // 02:47

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Originally Posted by Silversword22

An imbagon works great in any situation, but if you're using sabway, I think you'll be okay without it, even in HM. I personally don't use sabway as much (since I love my para heroes

) but when I did I used stunning strike. You have other non-elite options to induce deep wound. Besides since you're using a lot of casters, why not bring defensive anthem?

Defensive Anthem... thats not a bad idea

ill have to give that a shot sometime

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Originally Posted by DarkSpirit

Exactly. I dont think sabway is the ideal team build for an Imbagon, since it lacks hex removal.

Rac's Paragon buddies team build is more suitable with Orders from the derv hero and Anthems from the other Paragon heroes.

can you send me a link for Rac's Paragon Buddies or w/e? ill have to check that out

Biofobico · Sep 26, 2008, 08:12 AM // 08:12

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Originally Posted by greenreaper3

can you send me a link for Rac's Paragon Buddies or w/e? ill have to check that out

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10254869