Curse

Lishy · May 10, 2009, 11:31 PM // 23:31

We all know how "limited" paragons usually are in choice. So I decided to create this.
A thread to try and come up with whatever build you can make to take full advantage of a paragon for at least a semi-efficient build.
Builds you post can be gimmicky, and what-not. And they can utilize skills from the "Imbagon".
However, try to come up with entirely new builds for the paragon.

As for my contribution, I'll revive an old sub-par paragon gimmick:

[Kain Fy's Skills;OQWjYKnM6S2gLBxAWcwb2bybzkA]
A DoA cryer for paragons to get into cryway groups.
Lightbringer's gaze can be, of course, be replaced, and then it would just be general E-management.
This build uses staves and is not "intended" for the user to use spears and charge adrenaline with it. Though, if you can find it works, you can do it.
Anyways, the point of the build is to spam "TPIY" for the e-management of you and your party via signet of aggression and "I am the strongest!"

Whatever builds or at least possible strategies or ideas you have, please post them here and share!

SmokingHotImolation · May 11, 2009, 12:30 AM // 00:30

Have you tested this build? For me it looks like you wont be able to keep energi up at all. For energy management i'd probably spec 12 into iinspiration, and take [Lyssa's aura] and possibly [Auspicious incantation] too (Might be overkill). Still dont think the paragon even has the base energi it takes to be the cryer..

Lishy · May 11, 2009, 12:36 AM // 00:36

Well, Smoking, you see, Lyssa's aura requires constant casting on enemies.
As a result, me, personally, I would not say it is that useful for someone like a Paragon. TPIY at least is a constant source of +7 energy and party wide +1 energy regen.

Axel Zinfandel · May 11, 2009, 05:03 AM // 05:03

I like it, except for the lack of attack skills.

Personally, [Defensive Anthem (PvE)] and [Song of Purification] are both very good skills PvE-wise.

[Song of Restoration (PvE)] is also very good skill, but would be better if used with recharge reducing skills. It'd also be a lot better if the motivation line wassn't as crappy :/

Lishy · May 11, 2009, 05:10 AM // 05:10

Song of restoration is an amazing skill. However, as said before, it needs recharge.
I'm going to look into it and perhaps with the addition of [serpent's quickness]+[dwarven stability], it might be better.

Someone else look into Song of Purification for an efficient build though.

Axel Zinfandel · May 11, 2009, 11:12 PM // 23:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kain Fz

Someone else look into Song of Purification for an efficient build though.

Pretty much refer to the one Racway build for SoP use.

My Lipgloss is Cool · May 12, 2009, 02:43 AM // 02:43

Anyways, I ran this while skill capping, had some fun with it.
[Spear of Fury][Cruel Spear][Wild Throw][Go for the Eyes][Anthem of Weariness][Pain Inverter][Asuran Scan][Aggressive Refrain]
Asuran Scan -> Cruel Spear -> Spear of Fury -> Cruel Spear is a fun little spike.

Lishy · May 12, 2009, 03:52 AM // 03:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Lipgloss is Cool

Anyways, I ran this while skill capping, had some fun with it.
[Spear of Fury][Cruel Spear][Wild Throw][Go for the Eyes][Anthem of Weariness][Pain Inverter][Asuran Scan][Aggressive Refrain]
Asuran Scan -> Cruel Spear -> Spear of Fury -> Cruel Spear is a fun little spike.

The thing about Asura scan is that is can be used in with any build. And Cruel Spear requires the target foe to be not moving (Though that can be easily accomplished in pve)

If the build focuses on Deep Wound, a good idea would be to figure out how to apply it often and kill fast, whilst still supporting your team. A quick, spammable, yet supportive spike.

Wild Throw can somehow count as support, but it's specific utility for PvE, however, I, personally, find it as a bad stance removal since it requires adrenaline. And if you've used up your adrenaline and have to fight dodge rangers, you can't activate it.

The build also lacks "For Great Justice!" which would greatly reduce spammability of your Adrenaline skills.

In conclusion, it is a decent concept and it sounds great on paper. However, hopefully in the next skill balance, Paragon may be able to synergize better with Cruel Spear.

Moloch Vein · May 12, 2009, 04:07 AM // 04:07

First of all, it is certainly viable to run a paragon with all radiants and attunements. The armor level is still 80.

Second, Kain, your attributes are way off. You have no use for 12 in Motivation. (Uh, haven't you completed the attribute quests?)

Third, while I do applaud the effort, I don't really think that the generated result is good enough. You spend three slots for energy management, and still, you only gain 2 adrenaline from SoA which can only be used once every 6 seconds (a pretty bad adrenaline gain), and TPIY costs 4e. You also give party members little incentive to bring you. Let's face it, you're providing extremely little utility with your build. A few energy-based shouts to actually buff the party, of course TNTF, and a bit more, and you'll be in business. I agree with the Lyssa's Aura suggestion, and I do think you need Auspicious as well.

Axel Zinfandel · May 12, 2009, 06:48 AM // 06:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Lipgloss is Cool

Anyways, I ran this while skill capping, had some fun with it.
[Spear of Fury][Cruel Spear][Wild Throw][Go for the Eyes][Anthem of Weariness][Pain Inverter][Asuran Scan][Aggressive Refrain]
Asuran Scan -> Cruel Spear -> Spear of Fury -> Cruel Spear is a fun little spike.

[Cruel Spear] for Either [Stunning Strike] or [Soldier's Fury] or [Focused Anger]

Since you're running Go for the Eyes, you might as well use Vicious Strike.

Senora Muerte · May 13, 2009, 05:00 PM // 17:00

Dunno if someonelse ever used something like this,
but this is the build with i'm wandering around at the moment.
Maybe you have some hint to give me to optimize it

[Condition Heat Sink;OQaksolrpiG0zQ7EQ2MoFmCmTDNG]

With Cold damage spear +15% under enchantment