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Old May 30, 2009, 08:18 PM // 20:18   #21
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Just use Drunken Master. Work on your drunkard title, while still getting a 30% ish attack increase, depending on your Deldrimor level. It frees up a slot because you don't have to use a chant to keep AR up, minimal energy (5), and a long duration.
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Old Jun 15, 2009, 12:21 AM // 00:21   #22
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under 33% IAS you attack about once per second. if you're using an orders hero (which I do in every physical heavy team), you'll gain 2 adrenaline each second, not counting the increased adrenal gain from SF.

in four seconds, you'll gain 8 adrenaline. If you're getting a 5-8 second downtime of SY!, I'm assuming you're not using an order's hero.

They are nice
The problem with this line of thinking is that orders is not actually always up. Actually, unless you disable and never use mystic healing and dwayna's touch, it's impossible.
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Old Jun 15, 2009, 03:32 AM // 03:32   #23
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The problem with this line of thinking is that orders is not actually always up. Actually, unless you disable and never use mystic healing and dwayna's touch, it's impossible.
Give or take... It's still up enough for it to be very useful. when I want a more reliable use, I use an ele with ER spamming them
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Old Jun 16, 2009, 05:53 AM // 05:53   #24
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Thats why i use Infuriating Heat. Ranger hero provides interrupts and double adren with a physical heavy party. Yes there is the issue with it also providing opponents with double adren but if your spamming SY on recharge it doesn't matter much.
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Old Jun 16, 2009, 06:16 PM // 18:16   #25
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Thats why i use Infuriating Heat. Ranger hero provides interrupts and double adren with a physical heavy party. Yes there is the issue with it also providing opponents with double adren but if your spamming SY on recharge it doesn't matter much.
According to wiki, IH doesn't stack with adren gain, so it seems like kind of a waste.
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Old Jun 16, 2009, 07:19 PM // 19:19   #26
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Thats why i use Infuriating Heat. Ranger hero provides interrupts and double adren with a physical heavy party. Yes there is the issue with it also providing opponents with double adren but if your spamming SY on recharge it doesn't matter much.
ANY para needing an adren boost is just failing.

Look, the only thing that stops us is soothing images, in PvE that might be an issue is some areas, and at best that might interupt AR, so we fall back on E related skills for the upkeep, add a hex removal if needs be.

In a good phys party its covered, the imba might cry now and again but your still gonna "win". the only spirit i found usfull was in jokos domain HM VQ where FS is handy due to all the sodding res from foe.
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Old Jun 16, 2009, 08:34 PM // 20:34   #27
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ANY para needing an adren boost is just failing.

Look, the only thing that stops us is soothing images, in PvE that might be an issue is some areas, and at best that might interupt AR, so we fall back on E related skills for the upkeep, add a hex removal if needs be.

In a good phys party its covered, the imba might cry now and again but your still gonna "win". the only spirit i found usfull was in jokos domain HM VQ where FS is handy due to all the sodding res from foe.
Oh i'm sorry i could've sworn i said the word TEAM. Sure you don't *need* IH if your running with Spear of Fury, but my Paragon heroes don't complain, they don't have Spear of Fury. My Ranger hero doesn't complain about the extra adren for her 2 shouts. The Warrior hench don't complain either (or heroes or whatever if your not solo'ing. It helps on a team basis and just provides you with a stronger gain yourself.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 12:20 AM // 00:20   #28
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So basically you're using "Save Yourselves!", Soldier's Fury, "There's nothing to Fear!", FGJ, Ebon Standard of honor for this correct?

Or do you use Spear of Fury instead of the Ebon ward?
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