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Tabako0 · Apr 02, 2006, 04:48 AM // 04:48

I would like to know what is the funnest build for a necro. It has to be good at FoW tho becuz that is what I am going to be focusing on for a while. Keep in mind, MMs are usually considered horrible at FoW.

WiLdFiRe111 · Apr 02, 2006, 04:57 AM // 04:57

Well, I'd say that MM is pretty fun, but keeping in mind your post I suppose an Orders necro is out of the question - they just spam a couple of skills over and over. I really don't have a clue, I've never done FoW before :P. Could a Wells necro do well?

Unchain · Apr 02, 2006, 07:56 AM // 07:56

SS is tons of fun in FoW. But then again I have fun buying and selling.

Wretchman Drake · Apr 02, 2006, 08:15 PM // 20:15

MM is okay when you're getting good SOul Reaping energy and bodies to make minions. SS is pretty fun for farming, I just generally tend to use a Blood/Smite combo for fast damage and healing when I have a group with me.

Lord Xenos · Apr 02, 2006, 09:37 PM // 21:37

Actually most MM use Offering of Blood so you dont even need that much Soul Reaping.

Evilsod · Apr 03, 2006, 12:09 AM // 00:09

SS does indeed have its moments

Nothing beats standing in the middle of 6-8 Shadow Beasts (or Snarling Driftwood + weaken) with a couple of SSs on em watching the 37/41s roll.

Unchain · Apr 03, 2006, 01:58 AM // 01:58

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Originally Posted by Lord Xenos

Actually most MM use Offering of Blood so you dont even need that much Soul Reaping.

Not true. I use high amounts of soul reaping and save myself a slot. I have never seen a decent MM use OoB for energy management. You need bodies to make minons so why not gain enough energy to use those spells from the bodies?

Wretchman Drake · Apr 03, 2006, 02:28 AM // 02:28

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Originally Posted by Unchain

Not true. I use high amounts of soul reaping and save myself a slot. I have never seen a decent MM use OoB for energy management. You need bodies to make minons so why not gain enough energy to use those spells from the bodies?

That's how I play MM. I've only played a true MM once and that was with one other guildie and henchies in Iron Mines. OoB is nice but I wouldn't want to split my attributes between 3 things. 16 Death and 15 Soul Reaping is what I did and it worked out fine. Of course I used the Summon Bone Fiend cast since having 2 lvl 13 minions don't compare to what a lvl 18 Bone Fiend can do, and if you have a wand that will increase Death Magic +1 20% of the time, usually 1 out of a batch of 5 fiends will be lvl 19.

Toxic RD · Apr 03, 2006, 02:33 AM // 02:33

Whats your blood/smite build drake?

Wretchman Drake · Apr 03, 2006, 02:43 AM // 02:43

Attributes:
16 Blood
12 Smite

SKills:
1.) Vampiric Gaze
2.) Dark Pact
3.) Well of Blood
4.) Rez or Barbed Sig
5.) Bane Signet
6.) Banish
7.) Smite
8.) Offering of Blood {E} or Grenth's Balance {E}

It's good support for PvE, mainly because of Well of Blood, and it's spammable damage. That's about it I guess. Not so well in PvP I'm afraid.

Ole Man Bourbon · Apr 03, 2006, 04:50 AM // 04:50

It can't possibly be MM. All that work keeping up the army. Yikes.

SS builds are fun. Degen builds are fun. Death builds that use Well of Suffering and aren't MM builds are fun. With the new skills, Death will really kick ass, btw. I also like playing a Meleemancer with Spinal SHivers.

Lord Xenos · Apr 03, 2006, 08:27 PM // 20:27

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Originally Posted by Unchain

Not true. I use high amounts of soul reaping and save myself a slot. I have never seen a decent MM use OoB for energy management. You need bodies to make minons so why not gain enough energy to use those spells from the bodies?

Ouch... Never saw a good mm use OoB maybe you should get our more.

Because I haven't really seen a mm not use OoB okay I have but just not as many that dont as many that do.

Fungus Amongus · Apr 04, 2006, 03:14 AM // 03:14

PvE? Soul Reaping
Pvp? OoB or other energy gain skill

Soul Reaping makes PvE Easy

OoB gives energy at the expense of some health. (Don't fret about the instant results.)

Your choice now.

Mared Text · Apr 04, 2006, 03:45 AM // 03:45

Oob is the way to go if you want max sized armys. Heal area + blood of the master spam is needed to full heal all your minions before they go into battle. Unless of course you only want to have a ghetto number of minions.

phreakilla · Apr 04, 2006, 11:48 AM // 11:48

as a fairly skilled mm i think oob is the way to go, but i only use it at the beginning of the zone or if stuff just isnt dying fast enough you have to beable to maintain your army even in the gaps of the zone

GW-guy · Apr 04, 2006, 05:32 PM // 17:32

MM is really fun, bbut SS is funniest in sorows furnace, anyway... order and battery is SOOOOOOOOO bOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOring... tainted isnt a very funny thign either.. but 55 hp necros is fun to be

Ermac · Apr 04, 2006, 07:52 PM // 19:52

eh imo if youre gona be a mm N/Mo in sorrows furnace, bring tainted flesh as your elite and essence bond as your energy management (if you think sp isint enough)...works wonders. ^^

ryek09 · Apr 04, 2006, 07:57 PM // 19:57

Necor/Ele GLYPS OF RENENAL!!!! 100% VERETA'S!!!!

FOR MM BUILD NO OoB!!

Lord Xenos · Apr 04, 2006, 08:35 PM // 20:35

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Originally Posted by ryek09

Necor/Ele GLYPS OF RENENAL!!!! 100% VERETA'S!!!!

FOR MM BUILD NO OoB!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fungus Amongus

PvE? Soul Reaping
Pvp? OoB or other energy gain skill

Soul Reaping makes PvE Easy

OoB gives energy at the expense of some health. (Don't fret about the instant results.)

Your choice now.

Hmm if your running Veratas Sacrafise, Blood of the Master & Heal Area thats -3 pips degen on all your minions. There for you have to heal more plus constantly get fiends/horrors/minions which takes either 25 energy or 15 energy each cast plus the 3 heal skills that cost 10 energy. I'm not sure but my necro has like 50-52 energy? I animate a Fiend & Horror and bam I'm down to 12 energy with just to casts then Animate Fiend is regenned and I might of just got 7-10 energy from Soul Reaping but I still need some fast energy for my necro Veratas/Animate Fiend and I dont have enough so I cast OoB and instant 15 energy at the expense of... health? Its like 50 health which wont kill you if you have a decent size army. Plus on my build just cast the blood skill that steals energy... I cant think of the name of it but get your health back with just 10 energy. There you go I hope that made sense????? Also the N/E build isnt very good. That is my opinion though.

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Originally Posted by Ermac

eh imo if youre gona be a mm N/Mo in sorrows furnace, bring tainted flesh as your elite and essence bond as your energy management (if you think sp isint enough)...works wonders. ^^

When being a MM your not going to get hit very much so Essence Bond is going to be -1 energy regen for just the fun of it? I dont think you will be taking many hits if you run a 5 man with a stance tank but I might be wrong?

Fungus Amongus · Apr 05, 2006, 03:12 AM // 03:12

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Originally Posted by Lord Xenos

Hmm if your running Veratas Sacrafise, Blood of the Master & Heal Area thats -3 pips degen on all your minions.

How so?

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Originally Posted by Lord Xenos

There for you have to heal more plus constantly get fiends/horrors/minions which takes either 25 energy or 15 energy each cast plus the 3 heal skills that cost 10 energy. I'm not sure but my necro has like 50-52 energy? I animate a Fiend & Horror and bam I'm down to 12 energy with just to casts then Animate Fiend is regenned and I might of just got 7-10 energy from Soul Reaping but I still need some fast energy for my necro Veratas/Animate Fiend and I dont have enough so I cast OoB and instant 15 energy at the expense of... health?

I'll be translating that part later.

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Originally Posted by Lord Xenos

Its like 50 health which wont kill you if you have a decent size army. Plus on my build just cast the blood skill that steals energy... I cant think of the name of it but get your health back with just 10 energy.

What's the name of the skill that steals energy? If you mean health then I imagine you are talking about Vamp Gaze.

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Originally Posted by Lord Xenos

Ok. There you go I hope that made sense?????

None whatsoever.