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Old Aug 16, 2006, 02:47 PM // 14:47   #1
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Skills

1. Order of Pain
2. Blood Ritual
3. Order of the Vampirer
4. Resilient Weapon (Factions Skill)
5. Weapon of Warding (Factions Skill)
6. Vital Weapon (Factions Skill)
7. Brutal Weapon (Factions Skill)
8. Flesh of my Flesh (Factions Skill)

Attributes:
Blood- 16 (12+3+1)
Restoration- 8
Communing- 10
Soul- 3 (2+1)
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Old Aug 16, 2006, 06:26 PM // 18:26   #2
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I was kind of hoping for an Apostacy build. I don't see how this is anyhow better than classic Order. Surely Weapon spells are nice but... stick to the Restoration ones if you wanna use em, they tie in well with the Orders build (Venegful, Res). Why on earth would you want to use Vital Wep? You do know the more life you have, the more you sac and the harder it is to heal the sac? No Soul Reaping and no nrg management is absurd. Orders drain a lot of nrg, if you dont know that much, you obviously havent played Orders. Oh and:

Brutal Weapon
Weapon Spell. Give target ally a Brutal Weapon for 5...17 seconds. The bearer's weapon strikes for +5...13 damage as long as the bearer is under no Enchantments.

Enuf said.
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Old Aug 16, 2006, 08:16 PM // 20:16   #3
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Also, weapon spells don't stack and OoP and OoV don't stack aswell... stargate_sg1sg1 give me some of what you're smoking please. I'll pay in game.
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Old Aug 16, 2006, 09:19 PM // 21:19   #4
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Well it owned for me! w/e you guys want lol you do that
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Old Aug 18, 2006, 05:23 PM // 17:23   #5
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Originally Posted by stargate_sg1sg1
Well it owned for me! w/e you guys want lol you do that
Does that mean you've actually missed the glaring problems of your build? I think your build did not actually "own", it just looked like it did.
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Old Aug 19, 2006, 09:00 PM // 21:00   #6
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your build is plain dumb... order of pain and order of vampire overlap, you have so many weapon spells, 1 for each team mate perhaps
you have no energy management and very low soul reaping and you dont have anything other than orders to do and you'll run out of energy very fast...
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Old Aug 19, 2006, 09:04 PM // 21:04   #7
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3 soul reaping+spamming skills=gg, you lost.
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Old Aug 19, 2006, 09:40 PM // 21:40   #8
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Interesting concept, using a N/Rt as an Orders.

Why not...

Order of Pain
Order of Vampire
Blood Ritual
Well of Blood
Flesh of My Flesh
Generous Was Tsungrai
Recuperation
Weapon of Warding

16 Blood (12+1+3)
12 Soul Reaping (11+1)
6 Restoration

Generous + Weapon of Warding give you a very nice self heal/regen, and Recuperation (even at +2 regen) is a nice battlefield enchantment.

I'd hate to take Soul Reaping down any further, but you at 11 Soul Reaping you could gain 8 Restoration, which is a very quick 200 health self heal.
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Old Aug 19, 2006, 10:32 PM // 22:32   #9
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Go 9 + 3 SR. Orders+Low health=Less sacrifice.
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Old Sep 12, 2006, 08:08 PM // 20:08   #10
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My N/Rt Orders for Tomb....

1) OoP
2) Mend B&S
3) OoV
4) Soothing Memories
5) Blood Ritual
6) Flesh of Flesh
7) Recoup
8) Awaken the Blood

Sup Rune for Blood and Soul Reaping
Staff with 20% Enchant
Do what you need to do aside from this to get your HP down around 250-300.

Blood 16
Restoration 12
Soul Reaping 6

At start of Battle hit Awaken and Recoup... then

- press 1, press 2, wait 1 second
- Press 3, press 4, wait 1 second
- repeat for about an hour

- BR the monk during long battles (if they ask for it every 10 seconds, politely suggest more 5 point heals) and BR the MM if he/she seems to be standing pointlessly in a pile of corpses.

The +3 from recoup affects all allies (except other spirits), making the Monk and MM's jobs much easier. You also get +200hp on everyone as opposed to the 50-60hp each for 15e that heal party gives you. Heal Party doesnt hit minions either.

I was worried about energy mgmt with my SR so low but it worked out ok. Between the 5 point heals and recoup helping out, the only time I ran out of energy was when I did stupid human tricks.

I also tried with weapon of warding in the 4 slot and made the key sequence 1,2,3,2,1.... but mend B&S wasn't always ready on time. Try WofWarding if you want, but remember it has a longer cast time and takes more energy.
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