Curse

Carinae · Dec 04, 2006, 07:17 PM // 19:17

I spent a lot of time in DoA this weekend. I died many many times but took it in stride and tried to learn from our mistakes. Domain of Anguish is difficult and unforgiving, but not impossible.

We worked on the quest "Breaching The Stygian Veil" for much of that time, and actually completed it last night. In fact, during each expedition, we noticeably improved our performance and lowered our wipe-rate substantially.

I tried a lot of skill variations, most failed utterly. Then I spent a lot of time pouring over the skill listing on GuildWiki searching for something that a Necro could bring that could offer a significant contribution. It's definately NOT a place where Necros shine, but they can still bring something to the mix.

The first thing to remember is that you are VERY VERY SQUISHY! Most creatures can one-hit-kill you with attacks in the 200-800 hit point range. Not Kidding.

General Necromancer Tactics

Turn on your Lightbringer title! It boosts your spell damage and lowers the damage you take.

Death Magic is useless here and Blood is only good for Orders and E-management. (Offering/CF)

Go with Curses. You need AoE everything. No single target spells. AoE hexes, debuffs and damage. Probably NOT degens, since you either die fast or the monsters die fast.

Pay attention! One mistake by ANYONE can literally wipe the entire party in seconds.

Pay attention! Monsters do NOT always do what you think they'll do. An extra second can be a LOT of time if you need to run away or get a defense up.

Stay in the back, stay out of aggro range until the monsters commit to a target.

Since you are support/secondary damage, choose Monk secondary and bring Rebirth. In fact, fit as many Rebirths onto your party build as possible. Not kidding. More than once only one person survived, and Rebirthed the whole squad.

Be prepared to kite all over the place.

Be prepared to draw aggro away from the monks, monsters rarely break aggro, EVER.

DO NOT LEAD MOBS BACK TO YOUR PARTY OR REZZERS!

Try to die in a place where you can be rezzed, not inside a field of monsters.

Working Necromancer Build for Stygian Veil

N/Mo

16 Curses
12 Protection
4 Soul Reaping

Lightbringers Gaze
Desecrate Enchantments
Feast of Corruption {E}
Shadow of Fear
Reckless Haste
Protective Spirit
Spirit Bond
Rebirth

The first three are AoE damage. FoC hits at ~160 for me, with R6 Lightbringer. Desecrate gets a good damage boost also.

You don't have the energy for a long fight. Converge on a target right away after the monsters commit to aggro, and run your spike or hexes.

If aggro breaks, get PS up immediately!!!

Help your teammates! You can use PS and SB on them too!

You are not a tank. But PS+SB will allow you to tank some monsters nearly indefinately. That can be usefull to buy time for the rest of the party.

I'll post more later. Any other necros have suggestions for those wanting to enter DoA?

Cebe · Dec 05, 2006, 09:05 AM // 09:05

As much as I LOVE Feast of Corruption, and since I capped it, it is ALWAYS on my skillbar...it's not the - easiest - skill in the world to get. I was considering using Soul Bind with spammable hexes. Soul Bind is much easier to cap, and it does knock down attacking foes when hexed. Just a thought for people who can't/'really don't want to' cap FoC.

omcginty44 · Dec 05, 2006, 03:41 PM // 15:41

what good would knocking down one enemy in a place such as DoA do....

Mr.Pickle · Dec 06, 2006, 08:09 PM // 20:09

I haven't got around to finishing NF. Is DoA something like UW meets the Deep?

How does Foc surpass SS there, curious. I love the potential for FoC but the recharge is so long imo that unless u echo u do very little for your group or does high lightbringer make up for that? Since you said you have tried alot of builds there I'm interested if BiP was one of those and your comments.

Carinae · Dec 06, 2006, 08:29 PM // 20:29

FoC seems better here because at the moment, tanking the monsters isn't feasilbe. Perhaps better tanking build will appear, but for now there isn't enough time for SS to run it's course.

In this case, we have other sources of damage, and FoC is just auxillary damage in case anyone survived the first wave. So the recharge doesn't really matter.

You could go BiP/Blood but I'd still keep the Prot spec.

Cherng Butter · Dec 06, 2006, 09:36 PM // 21:36

Dervish secondary, perhaps? Conviction, mystic regeneration, etc.

ubermancer · Dec 07, 2006, 12:52 AM // 00:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherng Butter

Dervish secondary, perhaps? Conviction, mystic regeneration, etc.

Wouldnt do anything. You need Protective Spirit. Spirit Bond I dont see much use for, but it isnt a bad addition.

Id personally run Meekness (over Shadow of Fear) and both versions of Desecrate Enchantments (in favor of Reckless), but the OP's build isnt bad.

Note - weakness is useless. Even at 1/3 strength, they hit for enough that you should be PS'd anyways.

Cathode_Reborn · Dec 07, 2006, 01:15 AM // 01:15

SS definitely out-damages FoC. It only has to trigger 4 times to do more dmg than it.

I'm thinking of adding Defile flesh. I've never had the need to use it but the Monks in Anguish heal too damn much =/

As for tanking, it's possible but of course people think it isn't cause it requires a full-tank no-dmg build, and just about every warrior seems to be more interested in trying to kill with a little sword

. In a random pug, our warrior kept dying so much when attempting to tank. He decided to drop out all dmg and attack skills and bring nothin but defense. He held the aggro in the City for a long time. Long enough to let the nukers nuke while I casted SS. Defy pain, watch yourself, dolyak sig, sig of stamina, are all very important.

ubermancer · Dec 07, 2006, 01:18 AM // 01:18

SS is DOT. FOC is DD. World of difference.

SparhawkJC · Dec 07, 2006, 01:23 AM // 01:23

Has anyone considering trying Spoil Victor?

Captain Arne Is PRO · Dec 07, 2006, 01:26 AM // 01:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Pickle

I haven't got around to finishing NF. Is DoA something like UW meets the Deep?

How does Foc surpass SS there, curious. I love the potential for FoC but the recharge is so long imo that unless u echo u do very little for your group or does high lightbringer make up for that? Since you said you have tried alot of builds there I'm interested if BiP was one of those and your comments.

DoA is like an SF type place with monsters the caliber of Aataxes.

Hidden Prayers · Dec 07, 2006, 12:21 PM // 12:21

Casting SV multiple times might prove pretty energy intensive though