Curse

dimirpaw · Aug 03, 2007, 09:05 AM // 09:05

I'm having a real hard time staying alive 55 Necro farming.

I'm using these skills:

Protective Spirit
Healing Breeze
(Empty)
Suffering
Spiteful Spirit
Essence Bond
Balthazar's Spirit
Mending

I only have Prophecies so I can't use the skills that are in the common builds.

I went to the trolls outside of Drocks, couldn't even last 30 seconds with all enchants on and healing breeze. I need some help on getting a good build here with out the use of Factions or Nightfall skills. I can farm 3 Hydras at a time and almost 6 if they don't knock me down while putting on Protective Spirit, but it's pretty hard.

I'm also on normal mode.

Holz · Aug 03, 2007, 09:39 AM // 09:39

A 55hp Monk or Necro can't tank an unlimited amount of enemies. That's why a lot of builds include Spirit Bond, even with the nerf you can still spam it to tank big amounts of enemies. But, Spirit Bond is a Factions skill so you can't use it. However, Insidious Parasite is a Prophecies skill and also helps you surviving because it steals 47hp from a foe each time it hits. Try using Insidious Parasite, it will help. Also farming Trolls is a waste of time, it's not profitable at all... try Minotaurs HM in the Northern Shiverpeaks

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dimirpaw · Aug 03, 2007, 10:04 AM // 10:04

Thanks, I really need to update to Factions and Nightfall. I've been playing since 2005 and enjoy Prophecies a bit too much I guess.

blue.rellik · Aug 03, 2007, 10:21 AM // 10:21

Trolls are very difficult to HM 55 farm since there's alot of them, they attack majorly fast and they interuppt

philo · Aug 03, 2007, 11:33 AM // 11:33

You might want to check out this thread where someone else had similar problems at the exact same spot:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10181260

dimirpaw · Aug 03, 2007, 12:18 PM // 12:18

Thanks, I've read that thread and the threads linked from that. I don't have Factions so I cannot use those builds sadly. I was at hydras and killed a group of 9 of them with my N/Mo. So I think I'll be hydra farming for awhile now.

Fuzzy Taco · Aug 03, 2007, 01:02 PM // 13:02

Holz was right about spirit bond. it is by far the best secondary heal skill for a 55 in the game in my opinion. since you can't use it, let's look at an alternative:

Orison of healing.

[skill]Orison of Healing[/skill]

at 9 healing, it heals you for 50 health. that's pretty much a full heal for only 5 energy, and it's spammable. and as far as suffering goes, listen to holz, myself, and common sense: take suffering out for insidious parasite. it's better than suffering by a mile. with this build, you should be able to take on HM hydras with ease.

dimirpaw · Aug 03, 2007, 02:13 PM // 14:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuzzy Taco

Holz was right about spirit bond. it is by far the best secondary heal skill for a 55 in the game in my opinion. since you can't use it, let's look at an alternative:

Orison of healing.

[skill]Orison of Healing[/skill]

at 9 healing, it heals you for 50 health. that's pretty much a full heal for only 5 energy, and it's spammable. and as far as suffering goes, listen to holz, myself, and common sense: take suffering out for insidious parasite. it's better than suffering by a mile. with this build, you should be able to take on HM hydras with ease.

Now I'm running into another problem. Some times while casting healing breeze or my heal spell or even protective spirit I get knocked down, get back up and get knocked down about three times in a row. This makes it extremely hard to survive. Any tips to counter this? I know I can just deal with one group of three at a time, but I can kill 9 hydras if I never get knocked down while casting.

philo · Aug 03, 2007, 02:30 PM // 14:30

There isn't much you can do about this, since there are no necro counters to knockdown, and the only monk skill that helps against knockdowns is a) an elite and b) Elonian.

So you are left with taking on only groups small enough to avoid the knockdowns by good timing.

dimirpaw · Aug 03, 2007, 02:36 PM // 14:36

So far what works is to recast when they're half way done to be safe, but I'm going to stick to groups of no more then 6 hydras. Right now I'm waiting for the favor to go to America so I can solo UW.

Just a general question, I'm looking to buy armor just for farming. Is buying the cheapest armor matter? I'm guessing not because I'll be 55hp anyhow with Protective Spirit. I just don't feel like scrolling and un-scrolling my main gear. So I'm thinking of buying a scar set for farming.

Fuzzy Taco · Aug 03, 2007, 02:44 PM // 14:44

when you're making a 55 necro set, AL doesn't matter. i prefer + energy insignias, however they're not absolutely necessary. go ahead and make a set of whatever you like.

Hexum · Aug 03, 2007, 05:12 PM // 17:12

AL doesn't matter? I have been putting together my 55 Necro and everything I have read said to get 15AL.

MisterB · Aug 03, 2007, 05:51 PM // 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hexum

AL doesn't matter? I have been putting together my 55 Necro and everything I have read said to get 15AL.

Low AL(15 or 5)is for Spirit Bond. The OP does not have Factions, so Spirit Bond is not an option. Disregarding Spirit Bond, AL does not matter for a 55.

Bloodied Blade · Aug 04, 2007, 08:07 AM // 08:07

As you only have prophecies, I'm going to give you the solution that most people have used for 55 necro or 55 mo/n-

[skill]Guardian[/skill]

Guardian reduces the chance that they'll hit you (and thus be able to interrupt). Now, I can't remember if the trolls use disrupting chop (needs to hit) or distracting blow (does not need to hit) in order to interrupt, but if they don't use distracting blow, guardian should solve your problems.

If you're still having problems on trolls, you need to replace Suffering with-

[skill]Orison of Healing[/skill]

Orison will allow you to keep your health up against the rather large amount of sustained damage that will be coming in (monks achieve the same thing through divine favor).

You can also try using-

[skill]Shielding Hands[/skill]

SH instead of Suffering will give a similair effect to Orison of Healing by temporarily reducing all incoming damage to zero.

Feel free to post again if this works / doesn't work, as there are a number of solutions for you, good luck.

dimirpaw · Aug 04, 2007, 08:37 AM // 08:37

Thanks for all the posts!

So far everything is going fine with Orison Healing, it has saved me a lot of times when I couldn't cast healing breeze.

I just went into UW to attempt at farming in there. When those (Don't know the name) dark looking minotaur attacked me while I had Protective Spirit I died in one hit for some reason. Do they destroy enchantments? I was able to kill one Shadow but that's because I casted SS right before they hit me. I was also only attacking one small group. Right now I'm on Normal Mode until I get the hang of things. I'm guessing from the guide I read to hide behind that ghost so they get stuck is because they kill you so fast? I'm not sure, but I've seen a video of a Monk tanking them.

EDIT: Nevermind, it was those Shadows killing my Protective Spirit. However either way it appears to be hard to farm those Axes.

blue.rellik · Aug 04, 2007, 10:33 AM // 10:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodied Blade

As you only have prophecies, I'm going to give you the solution that most people have used for 55 necro or 55 mo/n-

[skill]Guardian[/skill]

Guardian reduces the chance that they'll hit you (and thus be able to interrupt). Now, I can't remember if the trolls use disrupting chop (needs to hit) or distracting blow (does not need to hit) in order to interrupt, but if they don't use distracting blow, guardian should solve your problems.

I think Trolls use Savage Slash while Grasping Nightmares use Distracting blow

political necro · Sep 02, 2007, 01:34 PM // 13:34

for reference the grasping nightmares also use "skull crack" if u let them get that much adrenaline this is very annoying as a 55 because it dazes you