Nov 29, 2007, 12:33 AM // 00:33
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#41
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Michigan
Guild: The Saint Of War
Profession: P/
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It's one of the most uniqe professions.
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Nov 29, 2007, 12:37 AM // 00:37
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#42
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Reactive Hexing Sucks
Guild: [Thay]
Profession: N/
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Oh, and another thing. If the team has to "keep the OoU alive" then the OoU is an idiot.
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Nov 29, 2007, 12:57 AM // 00:57
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#43
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2007
Guild: [HAWK]
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OoU MMs cast 4-5 Vamp horrors, and some bones, really hard. a good communer knows to backline utility spirits, forward his attackers, cast cycles, and radar zoning. if you dont know what any of that is, you dont play an effective rit, end of story. Minions go where they want, when they want, and getting them, and using them is even easier.
btw, this is the campfire, and until you go to glads arena, wards in both NM, AND HM are a walk in the park, idk what game you play.
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A Tainted Flesh warder has to be able to know where the wards are most effective, when to cast them, when to use them aggressively and when to use them defensively.
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little tip. you cast them when you get near the enemy. i hope everyone can handle this segment of "learning how to ward in pve".
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Nov 29, 2007, 12:59 AM // 00:59
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#44
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magikarp
monk, rit, good warrior, mesmer, good ranger.
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Takes more to play a necro than it does warrior or ranger which imo are some of the easiest classes to play. If anything ele's are easier to play than necros and yes I've played both and find it easier to keep energy and spam skills on an ele.
Btw if you think SS is the only thing necros run then you sir are ignorant.
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Originally Posted by Magikarp
name a necro build that does anything but hit the buttons in a row, or cast arcane on an already super strong skill, just to put it on just about anthing in pve.
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[skill]Corrupt Enchantment[/skill][skill]Parasitic Bond[/skill][skill]Price of Failure[/skill][skill]Reckless Haste[/skill][skill]Faintheartedness[/skill][skill]Signet of Lost Souls[/skill][skill]Dark Escape[/skill][skill]Feigned Neutrality[/skill]
Oh and btw if you are trying to say necros are ones that hit buttons in a row then you really need to look at over half the other professions in this game.
Last edited by jrk247; Nov 29, 2007 at 01:05 AM // 01:05..
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Nov 29, 2007, 01:04 AM // 01:04
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#45
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2007
Guild: [HAWK]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jrk247
Takes more to play a necro than it does warrior or ranger which imo are some of the easiest classes to play. If anything ele's are easier to play than necros and yes I've played both and find it easier to keep energy and spam skills on an ele.
Btw if you think SS is the only thing necros run then you sir are ignorant.
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never said thats the only thing necros do, and idk where you got the idea i feel that way. rangers ints are simple to spam, but take quite a while to master flight time, arc, and use. warriors, while easiest by far to pick up and start, take some of the longest time to learn how to effectivly play utilitarian, and still deal damage, and body block to migitate damage. in pvp, a good warrior will control everything he's near, and make his target be forced into prot/healing time. this is something no necro can do, outside of some gimmick hex-spam build, in which case the necros are simply exploiting already superstrong, easy to use skills.
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Nov 29, 2007, 01:05 AM // 01:05
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#46
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2007
Guild: [HAWK]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jrk247
[skill]Corrupt Enchantment[/skill][skill]Parasitic Bond[/skill][skill]Price of Failure[/skill][skill]Reckless Haste[/skill][skill]Faintheartedness[/skill][skill]Signet of Lost Souls[/skill][skill]Dark Escape[/skill][skill]Feigned Neutrality[/skill]
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corrupting an enchant in NM is useless, in HM, you put it on the guy with the yellow triangle on his name. the rest are spam skills. i dont see your point.
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Nov 29, 2007, 01:11 AM // 01:11
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#47
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magikarp
corrupting an enchant in NM is useless, in HM, you put it on the guy with the yellow triangle on his name. the rest are spam skills. i dont see your point.
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I don't even run this build in PvE so your examples are flawed and what are spam skills? PoF, RH, PB? I only use PoF and RH when under attack, the rest are degen. You really want to go on about necros being a spamming profession just look at the other professions.
It's not just spamming you need to know what target to remove enchants from and which targets to hex before they try to kill you. It's not just a point, click, spam.
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Nov 29, 2007, 01:20 AM // 01:20
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#48
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: USA
Guild: DMI
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jrk247
Btw if you think SS is the only thing necros run then you sir are ignorant.
Oh and btw if you are trying to say necros are ones that hit buttons in a row then you really need to look at over half the other professions in this game.
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QFT. Couldn't have said it better.
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Nov 29, 2007, 01:28 AM // 01:28
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#49
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2007
Guild: [HAWK]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jrk247
I don't even run this build in PvE so your examples are flawed and what are spam skills? PoF, RH, PB? I only use PoF and RH when under attack, the rest are degen. You really want to go on about necros being a spamming profession just look at the other professions.
It's not just spamming you need to know what target to remove enchants from and which targets to hex before they try to kill you. It's not just a point, click, spam.
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warrior comes after you or any other backliner: PoF, RH, PB, its called spamming. here comes a sin, you do it again.
monk cast guardian, CE. cast aegis, CE. spamming the guy with the golden triangle. Faint, and PB, are what you said, spammed for degen.
also, this is a pve forum, so your entire post was flawed then.
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Nov 29, 2007, 01:35 AM // 01:35
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#50
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magikarp
warrior comes after you or any other backliner: PoF, RH, PB, its called spamming. here comes a sin, you do it again.
monk cast guardian, CE. cast aegis, CE. spamming the guy with the golden triangle. Faint, and PB, are what you said, spammed for degen.
also, this is a pve forum, so your entire post was flawed then.
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Actually no, it's used for both PvE and PvP.
Alright necros spam and monks don't? Rits? Warriors? Rangers? Sins? Dervs? Eles? Paragons? Mesmers?
You can't just say necros spam because you are bias and don't like them. Every class spams, it's how it is. What do you think healing is? It's just spamming healing spells on allies. Sure you need to know who when and etc but you need to know that for a lot of professions.
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Nov 29, 2007, 01:46 AM // 01:46
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#51
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: USA
Guild: DMI
Profession: N/
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Alright necros spam and monks don't? Rits? Warriors? Rangers? Sins? Dervs? Eles? Paragons? Mesmers?
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No, they never spam anything at all. Just the push-button Necros.
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Nov 29, 2007, 01:49 AM // 01:49
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#52
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2007
Guild: [HAWK]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jrk247
Actually no, it's used for both PvE and PvP.
Alright necros spam and monks don't? Rits? Warriors? Rangers? Sins? Dervs? Eles? Paragons? Mesmers?
You can't just say necros spam because you are bias and don't like them. Every class spams, it's how it is. What do you think healing is? It's just spamming healing spells on allies. Sure you need to know who when and etc but you need to know that for a lot of professions.
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thats not even a viable argument. of course with only 8 skills you have to use the same 8 over and over, but to be an effective healer/protter, you have to actually understand the concepts of migi.... oh im not even going to debate this.
im not biased, i HAVE a necro, all 3 camps/eotn, 3 sets of 15k, used to farm with him back in the day. i KNOW what the class has to offer, and i choose not to like it for the reasons i've stated. its an easy to play class, and to master it, is not much of a differnce from a novice. i rather play a more challenging class, to make the already boring game more fun. thats not bias by any means.
im done "debating" something that isnt debatable...
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Alright necros spam and monks don't?
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really blew your whole side of the conversation out of the water...
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Nov 29, 2007, 01:52 AM // 01:52
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#53
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]
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Originally Posted by Magikarp
really blew your whole side of the conversation out of the water...
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Well it got my point across didn't it?
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Nov 29, 2007, 01:55 AM // 01:55
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#54
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2007
Guild: [HAWK]
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not at all...
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Nov 29, 2007, 02:03 AM // 02:03
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#55
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magikarp
not at all...
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Seemed to me that you thought necros were the only class to push buttons in a row (spam). Just because you choose not to play a necro because of your personal play style doesn't mean they suck or are easy to play or just button smash. I personally don't like to monk, I'm not going to say monks just button smash, I understand that it's not just spamming spells same with plenty of other classes.
After all it all comes down to your play style and what you enjoy doing. Difference of opinions.
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Nov 29, 2007, 02:08 AM // 02:08
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#56
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: [ToA]
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If you don't like necros go flame somewhere else. Notice the title of the thread-"Why do you love playing as a Necromancer?" not "why we should flame the necromancer."
As for me, i like the blood magic aspect of a necro. Sv is an amazing skill if used right. And no, its not just for shiro. It works great on melee types harrasing you, or annoying monks healing their near dead comrades. Theres also something weirdly entertaining about skills like bip. In places like the deep, you can go crazy. Guessing if you will sac yourself to death is always a fun version of Russian roulette.
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Nov 29, 2007, 02:35 AM // 02:35
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#57
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Reactive Hexing Sucks
Guild: [Thay]
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magikarp
OoU MMs cast 4-5 Vamp horrors, and some bones, really hard. [...] Minions go where they want, when they want, and getting them, and using them is even easier.
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I don't think you've ever seen a good minion master making those comments.
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Nov 29, 2007, 02:43 AM // 02:43
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#58
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Aug 2005
Profession: N/
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Magikarp, if i was a moderator, i would ban you for a few days to give you time to come to your senses. your first post in this thread is a blaten attempt to derail a thread, clearly off topic, and nothing short of flame bait and you knew it when you posted it. and i wouldn't be surprised if created your account just to make that opening statement.
Jayce Of Underworld
Last edited by jayce; Nov 29, 2007 at 02:46 AM // 02:46..
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Nov 29, 2007, 02:46 AM // 02:46
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#59
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2007
Guild: [HAWK]
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Originally Posted by Deftones_Korn_Unloco
Hey,
Just thought I'd ask a general question towards the profession, for general conversation sake. You must all have opinions, thoughts and views of the necromancer.
Why do you love playing as a necromancer? Or, it could be that you don't like playing the necromancer, and so why don't you?
Fire away! =]
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maybe you should all read before flaming me. i have an opinion, i voiced it. if you want to cry about it, talk to the OP. i didnt say anything mean, or anything objectifying any of you as bad people, yet you all attack me, just because you like necros. if you like them, good for you, i dont, i told you all why, so stop acting like children.
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Nov 29, 2007, 02:50 AM // 02:50
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#60
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: Eternal Insight
Profession: D/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magikarp
maybe you should all read before flaming me. i have an opinion, i voiced it. if you want to cry about it, talk to the OP. i didnt say anything mean, or anything objectifying any of you as bad people, yet you all attack me, just because you like necros. if you like them, good for you, i dont, i told you all why, so stop acting like children.
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How old are you? It's not related to the thread at all, I'm just curious.
Anyways, I LOVE blowing corpses up, especially with the new EotN skill, Putrid Bile. It's extremely fun, and can spike for 300 damage if timed perfectly. It's a nice break from MM.
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