Curse

Steps_Descending · Jan 13, 2008, 06:03 PM // 18:03

Istarted a necro partly for farming/solo power. I'm right now lvl17 working on ascenssion for the stats quests. The builds i like to play (mostly blood spiker variations) wind up being weak.

I'm thinking about deleting her but before that I'd like to know what people on a necro forum would say if I'd ask : What can you do/play as a fully grown necromancer? (not asking for specific builds, more for what is doable or what kind of playstyle is possible)

Terraban · Jan 13, 2008, 06:07 PM // 18:07

Melee Shutdown
Good Damage
Control an army
Support casters
Support physicals
Be a healer

Some of them can be combined...like...
melee shutdown and damage
Support for casters and physicals

Floski · Jan 13, 2008, 06:07 PM // 18:07

Why would you use bloodspiker skills.... Bloodspike works, and rarely at that (go watch obs mode to watch bloodspike get stomped on for free champpoiiiiiiiiis) because there are 8 necros. 1 necro is going to do very little damage, and at high energy cost, 10 energy spells over and over is a quick way to run out of energy.

Use curses like Spiteful Spirit. Blood is generally a bad line unless you're doing spoil victor boss farming.

BLOODGOAT · Jan 13, 2008, 06:52 PM // 18:52

SS.

12chars

digggaa · Jan 13, 2008, 07:29 PM // 19:29

u can play bip as well

Bowstring Badass · Jan 13, 2008, 07:31 PM // 19:31

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Originally Posted by BLOODGOAT

SS.

12chars

MM.

12chars

Alex Morningstar · Jan 13, 2008, 07:32 PM // 19:32

[skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill][skill]Icy Veins[/skill][skill]Feast of Corruption[/skill][skill]Discord[/skill][skill]Spoil Victor[/skill]

[skill]Jagged Bones[/skill] This is better on a hero, but some people like playing MMs I guess.

LifeInfusion · Jan 13, 2008, 07:37 PM // 19:37

You have got to be kidding.

Enfeebling Blood

Orders - Order of Pain, Order of Apostasy (crap), Dark Fury
...replaced by D/N due to the energy return form Mysticism but still

SS on >12 curses, Spinal Shivers with high curses to be able to sustain it

Spoil Victor > 12 Blood

Minionmaster with minions that actually damage things (not minionbombing Rt/N wannabes)

Minionbombers with 16 Death Magic for more damage (105 vs 85, 10 minions versus 8)

Jagged bones Minionmasters

Blood ritual + vampiric Gaze + blood of the aggressor + juandiced gaze self sufficiency

Defile Defenses/Weaken Armor/Barbs with physicals (Mark of Pain causes scatter so I don't bother with it)

Gaze of Contempt/Rend Enchantments to annihilate enchantment stacks on Dervishes

N/Rt healers

Icy Veils -Putrid Bile-Rising Bile style PvE builds

Tainted Flesh + Withering Aura style melee buffing builds (only D/N comes close to Necro efficiency in maintaining them)

The awesomeness that is necrosis.

more to come when I think of it.

Bowstring Badass · Jan 13, 2008, 07:53 PM // 19:53

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Originally Posted by Alex Morningstar

[skill]Jagged Bones[/skill] This is better on a hero, but some people like playing MMs I guess.

Jagged Bones is garbage since nerf imo... [skill]aura of the lich[/skill] is better for MM if used right.

boogerboy72 · Jan 13, 2008, 08:08 PM // 20:08

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Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass

Jagged Bones is garbage since nerf imo... [skill]aura of the lich[/skill] is better for MM if used right.

garbage thats on my skill bar for heros every time i play.

seriously, drop the blood, go ss/mm.

LifeInfusion · Jan 13, 2008, 08:08 PM // 20:08

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Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass

Jagged Bones is garbage since nerf imo... [skill]aura of the lich[/skill] is better for MM if used right.

on heros Jagged bones is good for minionbombing...not as strong as before but still.

Longasc · Jan 13, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23

Necros are indeed weak early on.

They mutate into powerhouses in Cantha, Elona and HM areas, as they provide defense, offense and immense killing power. Till you have gotten all the skills in Prophecies, you must at least have been through Droknar's and capped SS near Camp Rankor.

Blood is not too cool without EOTN skills and Spoil Victor, and in general you are better off as SS or MM.

Do not doubt the power of necros, they might just not be YOUR way to solve a problem.

My main char is a necro, but I deleted two-three tries to play a Necro in Prophecies, which plainly sucked so much...^^

I started my Necro in Cantha, where the environment is ideal for a MM. Later I became SS and found out that she was ideal to kick **** in HM. So much better than my Warrior! But I did not like Necros early on either for said reasons, maybe you are a Warrior, Ele or whatever at heart.

boogerboy72 · Jan 13, 2008, 09:44 PM // 21:44

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Originally Posted by LifeInfusion

on heros Jagged bones is good for minionbombing...not as strong as before but still.

thats what i use it for

Olim Chill · Jan 14, 2008, 01:05 AM // 01:05

Quote:

What can you do/play as a fully grown necromancer? (not asking for specific builds, more for what is doable or what kind of playstyle is possible)

In PVE? Anything you want - unless you use a poor build.

Play style? Patient.

Terraban · Jan 14, 2008, 01:10 AM // 01:10

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Originally Posted by Olim lll

Play style? Patient.

Um........huh?

Olim Chill · Jan 14, 2008, 01:14 AM // 01:14

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Originally Posted by Terraban

Um........huh?

???

........

Moloch Vein · Jan 14, 2008, 01:20 AM // 01:20

If you only knew the power of the dark side of the Force.

RPGmaniac · Jan 14, 2008, 06:15 AM // 06:15

As long as you have bodies, MMs can rip apart a good portion of PvE.
[skill]Order of Undeath[/skill][skill]Animate Flesh Golem[/skill][skill]Aura of the lich[/skill][skill]Jagged Bones[/skill]

SS or SV takes care of the other areas and is very potent when farming
[skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill][skill]Spoil Victor[/skill]

Orders are great if you have a lot of phyiscal attackers in your group (and still very popular for tombs I believe)
[skill]Order of Pain[/skill][skill]Order of the vampire[/skill]

BiP is a great help to casters
[skill]Blood is Power[/skill][skill]Blood Ritual[/skill]

arsie · Jan 14, 2008, 06:30 AM // 06:30

I can hardly think of a place in the game where a Necro is not welcomed in a party.

For solo farming, you might be limited to 55/SV or 55/SS. For dual farming, you can go with anyone else who refuses to die.

For solo playing, you can get two or three other Necro heroes and be able to take on much of PvE.

Probably the only place that Necro primary are not in demand is in PvP.

Utaku · Jan 14, 2008, 06:57 AM // 06:57

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Originally Posted by arsie

Probably the only place that Necro primary are not in demand is in PvP.

They don't belong to the typical balanced midline, but they are a key part of many lame or spike builds.