Curse

N1ghtstalker · Jun 02, 2008, 06:52 PM // 18:52

This has been actually quite confusing me on what to take with me
should i take the jagged bomber necro
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Te...Necro_Vanquish
last build on it

or an explosive growth ritualist
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Rt..._Minion_Bomber

don't know what would be best for damage

sean520 · Jun 02, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

Rt/N definitly. but obviously you would switch out Flesh Golem for Jagged bones.

most people use jagged on a rt/n

Introverted Dimensions · Jun 02, 2008, 07:44 PM // 19:44

rt/n doesn't cut it for me. it never seems to have the energy to maintain the enchantments and a supply of minions.

Breakfast Mc Rit · Jun 02, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35

I've had the same problem trx has had when using the Explosive Growth build on a hero. Jagged has faired a great deal better.

Turbobusa · Jun 02, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35

Rt/N with heavy melee, N/Mo rest of the time.

toastgodsupreme · Jun 02, 2008, 08:57 PM // 20:57

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Originally Posted by trx despair

rt/n doesn't cut it for me. it never seems to have the energy to maintain the enchantments and a supply of minions.

I used to find this to be the case, but with a 20% enchant weapon, it solves it.

But honestly, in many areas you'll find that a small amount of enchant removal totally kills the build.

I'd rather just rely on a necro hero for the job. Don't have to micro them either.

Trader of Secrets · Jun 02, 2008, 08:58 PM // 20:58

Id take the Nec. The Rit needs to maintain the enchnts to work and explosive doesnt seem too effective.

Nightow · Jun 02, 2008, 09:08 PM // 21:08

Prefer to put [Spirit's Gift] rather than [explosive growth]. Hard to go wrong with a spam-able 106 AoE heal along with dual condition remover.

Chthon · Jun 02, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16

Now that the heroes use Dwayna's Sorrow properly, N/Mo all the way.

zwei2stein · Jun 02, 2008, 09:30 PM // 21:30

Wiki Rt/N build is terrible.

Anyway, ever since Dwaynas buff both builds are about equal in healing and damage outputs. Flip a coin.

obsidian ectoplasm · Jun 02, 2008, 09:47 PM // 21:47

Why not use both....thats what im gonna start doig and just take out my SS

i would be guessing your using sabway......

MisterT69 · Jun 02, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

RT/N completely destroys Necro MM. [jagged bones] is inferior to the rits spawning power line (pretty much makes the minions like mini tanks) and throw in [explosive growth], there's your damage, and if you need some condition removal...well some necro bars like the sabway MM has [aegis] and [protective spirit], and for condition removal, [extinguish]. The skills are good, but [spirit's gift] pretty much provides a near constant party wide heal/condition removal, assuming the conditions are met to receive the bonus

Sir Cusfreak · Jun 02, 2008, 11:35 PM // 23:35

The explosive growth Rt/N does an outstanding job. I never leave home without it. put it on Xandra, give her the Ritualistic Ghostly Staff and let her go to town. 16 Spawn 12 death

The build is: Discord, Explosive Growth, Boon of Creation, Putrid Bile, Animate Shambling Horror, Animate Bone minion, Death Nova, and a rez.

give her some energy and health runes & insigs, and this is the perfect MM build.

She feeds the Discord (94/2seconds) with putrid bile (-3degen+76bomb) and conditions from jagged minions and death nova(86+poisonbomb), on top of what everyone else is putting out. shes getting double damage(112) and health(106) and energy(12) from the bone minions through BoC/EG. she's pure DPS and self maintaining too.

theres NO WAY a Necro hero can match, especially when everyone insists on using Jagged Bones to waste thier elite spot. just raise the Shambling minions, folks. Jagged Bones is just wrong, useless unless youre REALLY short on corpses. DISCORD BOMBER FTW ladies and gents, theres no question about it. Tried and True.

N1ghtstalker · Jun 04, 2008, 10:24 AM // 10:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Cusfreak

The explosive growth Rt/N does an outstanding job. I never leave home without it. put it on Xandra, give her the Ritualistic Ghostly Staff and let her go to town. 16 Spawn 12 death

The build is: Discord, Explosive Growth, Boon of Creation, Putrid Bile, Animate Shambling Horror, Animate Bone minion, Death Nova, and a rez.

give her some energy and health runes & insigs, and this is the perfect MM build.

She feeds the Discord (94/2seconds) with putrid bile (-3degen+76bomb) and conditions from jagged minions and death nova(86+poisonbomb), on top of what everyone else is putting out. shes getting double damage(112) and health(106) and energy(12) from the bone minions through BoC/EG. she's pure DPS and self maintaining too.

theres NO WAY a Necro hero can match, especially when everyone insists on using Jagged Bones to waste thier elite spot. just raise the Shambling minions, folks. Jagged Bones is just wrong, useless unless youre REALLY short on corpses. DISCORD BOMBER FTW ladies and gents, theres no question about it. Tried and True.

sounds good, i'll try it on some HM and let you know the result of my adventure with xandra

DarkSpirit · Jun 04, 2008, 03:55 PM // 15:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Cusfreak

The explosive growth Rt/N does an outstanding job. I never leave home without it. put it on Xandra, give her the Ritualistic Ghostly Staff and let her go to town. 16 Spawn 12 death

The build is: Discord, Explosive Growth, Boon of Creation, Putrid Bile, Animate Shambling Horror, Animate Bone minion, Death Nova, and a rez.

give her some energy and health runes & insigs, and this is the perfect MM build.

She feeds the Discord (94/2seconds) with putrid bile (-3degen+76bomb) and conditions from jagged minions and death nova(86+poisonbomb), on top of what everyone else is putting out. shes getting double damage(112) and health(106) and energy(12) from the bone minions through BoC/EG. she's pure DPS and self maintaining too.

theres NO WAY a Necro hero can match, especially when everyone insists on using Jagged Bones to waste thier elite spot. just raise the Shambling minions, folks. Jagged Bones is just wrong, useless unless youre REALLY short on corpses. DISCORD BOMBER FTW ladies and gents, theres no question about it. Tried and True.

I tried a similar build in HM, and she keeps running out of energy. Besides the little energy from Boon, I dont see any other energy management skills. Perhaps her minions would not die as fast in NM since the energy demands are lower there?

joshuarodger · Jun 05, 2008, 01:08 AM // 01:08

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Originally Posted by DarkSpirit

I tried a similar build in HM, and she keeps running out of energy. Besides the little energy from Boon, I dont see any other energy management skills. Perhaps her minions would not die as fast in NM since the energy demands are lower there?

she runs out of energy because a necro is better for MM than a rit. with minions dying every few seconds, a necro never runs out of energy if you spec 8 points in SR. this is the reason necros are superior to rits in terms of an MM. rits just don't have the E management skills that a necro already has built into his attribute line.