Curse

Undead Preacher · Feb 10, 2006, 03:22 AM // 03:22

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Originally Posted by ForeverGoNe

Do these 55 builds ever need to be in the vicinity of a target in order to unleash the chain of attacks?

Also, whats the most number of monsters you can with an I-necro?

lol, as many as you can aggro

Flank · Feb 10, 2006, 02:43 PM // 14:43

That's not true. At 55 health I can not tank 10 mino or trolls.. They simply hit to much even for 4 echants and healing breeze + insidious parasite. It's a struggle to keep alive and you will eventually die.

ForeverGoNe · Feb 10, 2006, 03:17 PM // 15:17

But are you suppose to be tanking with 55 builds? I thought that I-necro builds were suppose to attack from a range where monsters won't actually be in range to attack you while you unleash your curses.

tigernz · Feb 10, 2006, 04:41 PM // 16:41

The most enemies I've tanked at once was probably a mix of 15-20 Griffons, mino's and rockshots.

Mind you, I did have Insidious Parasite and Orision for a full heal to go with mending & breeze.

@ Forever: The whole point of the build (of any 55 build for that matter) is to reduce the damage you take from attacks through Prot Spirit. SInce you only take 10% of max damage, you're generally only taking 5 damage a hit (55hp x 10%)

You want the enemies to mob you so that your spiteful spirit can do more damage.

Carboplatin · Feb 10, 2006, 05:17 PM // 17:17

in response to one of the poster's statement about tanking as many as possible, its not true at least in my experience. When i do smites with this build, my health is at around 50% most of the time, and thats just one group of about 5-8. Now if i was to aggro two groups, the spike will definitly overcome breeze + mending.

I have been able to tank 3 darknesses and 2 ataxes with no problems tho.

Undead Preacher · Feb 10, 2006, 06:58 PM // 18:58

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Originally Posted by ForeverGoNe

But are you suppose to be tanking with 55 builds? I thought that I-necro builds were suppose to attack from a range where monsters won't actually be in range to attack you while you unleash your curses.

the point of a 55hp is to TAKE physical dmg, in no way would there be a reason for 55hp from distance attacks... being hit gives you energy, and with ss it deals out dmg... the whole point of this build is to take aggro, getting hit does dmg and energizes u

Undead Preacher · Feb 10, 2006, 07:01 PM // 19:01

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Originally Posted by Flank

That's not true. At 55 health I can not tank 10 mino or trolls.. They simply hit to much even for 4 echants and healing breeze + insidious parasite. It's a struggle to keep alive and you will eventually die.

When u start to aggro LARGE groups, when talking about griffins, trolls, and hydras... starting to get 10+ in my experience, u get foes that can't attack you and kinda just stand there.... and the ss still does dmg to them.. I have no probs with over 10 foes... but then again... when farming these types of opponents I also bring orison... helps alot in my opinion

Methal Seran · Feb 10, 2006, 07:47 PM // 19:47

Please excuse me if this is a stupid question but...
Did they nerf the solo build for the UW or something?
I have only tried a couple of times, with two other guildmates present, and I'd be fighting the aatxes and all of the sudden all of my enchantments would be stripped without a dying nightmare in sight (we had killed them already)
And I, and two other very experienced players, can say with 100% surety, that there were no DNs anywhere!
Any ideas why this would happen?
Did they give the aatxes the ability to strip enchantments now or something?
I am going to go try it again right now

At any rate, it works great for Griffon farming
Thanks for sharing!

Undead Preacher · Feb 11, 2006, 04:55 AM // 04:55

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Originally Posted by Methal Seran

Please excuse me if this is a stupid question but...
Did they nerf the solo build for the UW or something?
I have only tried a couple of times, with two other guildmates present, and I'd be fighting the aatxes and all of the sudden all of my enchantments would be stripped without a dying nightmare in sight (we had killed them already)
And I, and two other very experienced players, can say with 100% surety, that there were no DNs anywhere!
Any ideas why this would happen?
Did they give the aatxes the ability to strip enchantments now or something?
I am going to go try it again right now

At any rate, it works great for Griffon farming
Thanks for sharing!

As far as UW, i dunno, haven't done it in a while... been messing with my tank.. I have heard of losing enchantments with a NM present but that rumor has been around for a long time!

Studio Ghibli · Feb 11, 2006, 06:09 AM // 06:09

.. how does a solo I-Necro handle the grasping phantasms and their energy degen? That's the only part I can't figure out.

Undead Preacher · Feb 12, 2006, 03:48 AM // 03:48

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Originally Posted by Studio Ghibli

.. how does a solo I-Necro handle the grasping phantasms and their energy degen? That's the only part I can't figure out.

i usually cast ss to aggro, never had any problems, they are the easiest

Xaero Gouki Kriegor · Feb 13, 2006, 04:24 AM // 04:24

i tryd this build out and was really sucessful, but what i noticed was i killed like a crap load of monsters and my morale went up and my health went to up and i started taking mroe damage, is there a way to deal with this problem or do you just go back to town or outpost?

Undead Preacher · Feb 13, 2006, 05:09 AM // 05:09

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Originally Posted by Xaero Gouki Kriegor

i tryd this build out and was really sucessful, but what i noticed was i killed like a crap load of monsters and my morale went up and my health went to up and i started taking mroe damage, is there a way to deal with this problem or do you just go back to town or outpost?

u get a morale boost when u kill BOSSES.... just leave them alone

silentblade · Feb 13, 2006, 10:18 PM // 22:18

the prob im having is that i have stats of 5 blood 16 curse 3 soul 8heal and 9 prot y is that?

Undead Preacher · Feb 14, 2006, 01:05 PM // 13:05

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Originally Posted by silentblade

the prob im having is that i have stats of 5 blood 16 curse 3 soul 8heal and 9 prot y is that?

There are two quest that give you 15 attribute points each.... do them

kicks66 · Feb 14, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38

i just tried the FoW, however the shadow monks meant that i couldnt kill anything unless they were in a very big group, any help on that front?

Undead Preacher · Feb 14, 2006, 06:50 PM // 18:50

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Originally Posted by kicks66

i just tried the FoW, however the shadow monks meant that i couldnt kill anything unless they were in a very big group, any help on that front?

I've experienced the same problems.... and yes to kill them you do need to aggro a large group, at least in my experience you do... try to keep a couple foes alive to follow u around, it helps...

FoW is the MOST challenging but most fun area to solo.... takes alot of practice, which means it takes alot of platnium!

kicks66 · Feb 14, 2006, 09:30 PM // 21:30

also the mesmers seem to have more than one shatter enchnat spell, even using the cover enchnat against a group of 2 shadow eles+beasts and mesmer they manage to remove Vig Spirit+HB

CKaz · Feb 14, 2006, 09:50 PM // 21:50

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Originally Posted by Murder In China

You can't use an invic-character, you can't use a warrior, only a mesmer is possible but you must have a secondary profession and any of those can kill you.

Or use a character that not only mitigates but USES the effect thrown at them constantly. Biggest problem though is doing that AND handling the wide range of different mob experiences down there.

I think it'd be more likely to have a streamlined crack team to take it out myself (5-4-3-2

) rather than one and only one, but hey there-in lies the challenge.

I don't think one would imagine they could get through it with henches but I cleared the first floor... finally got caught by too much aggro on the second, I'll be back at some point

kicks66 · Feb 14, 2006, 10:11 PM // 22:11

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Originally Posted by kicks66

also the mesmers seem to have more than one shatter enchnat spell, even using the cover enchnat against a group of 2 shadow eles+beasts and mesmer they manage to remove Vig Spirit+HB

just checked this, and no thats not the problem, the problem is that bruning means i have a high health degen, i think ill try putting more points into HP and see how that does