Curse

Astral · Jun 03, 2009, 09:54 AM // 09:54

Well I'm after Lagendary EOTN title and I'm at the stage of vanquishing eotn,the only zone I've done was Ice Cliff Chasms but then when going to Norrhart domain I've encountered great resistance espessialy from Jotuns,in HM they whipe out my crew in seconds.I was running a standart blood build with assassin support and Life transfer.My master of whispers is a mm using jagged bones and animate minnions,rit healer livia and dunkoro followed byt the standart henchmen including devona and cynn along with mhenlo.
I'd appreciate some help with builds I should use when vanquishing those zones.

Thanks in advance

chris1234565 · Jun 03, 2009, 10:00 AM // 10:00

id say your best chance is running discord with 2 monk henches , 1 ele and 1 war and if your still lacking abit of health you could the same build as the curse or heal discord

jiggles · Jun 03, 2009, 10:50 AM // 10:50

[Pain inverter][assassins promise]

try them two

Xenomortis · Jun 03, 2009, 10:51 AM // 10:51

EotN is significantly harder in my opinion than areas from other campaigns. I'd recommend trying to vanquish Factions first. Of course, you may have already done this.

Either way, I cannot recommend using Blood magic. I'd recommend utilising the curses line - MoP is an excellent choice along with Barbs. Rigor Mortis may be a necessity in some areas too.
If you have factions, get Assassin's Promise. If not, get SS.

For HM, don't take Cynn. Her damage output is very low in HM compared to NM, take the two monk henchmen instead.

I Will Heal You Ally · Jun 03, 2009, 11:16 AM // 11:16

Um for HM I used Discord team (btw that pvx discord team build sucks) with earth hench 2 monks and interrupter I think.
As for Jotuns first go after the Mez guy if you can, the for the warrior and leave blood one for last since they heal.
And put your Norn title up

EDIT: BTW call your spells (with ctrl) and put your hench on the middle mode (I think it's guard) or else they won't use Discord. And you need to call the spells so they use it

madsGW · Jun 03, 2009, 12:03 PM // 12:03

dont run discord, its epic fail.

Moloch Vein · Jun 03, 2009, 12:26 PM // 12:26

I have a specialty for taking care of Jotun.

n/me

don't trip
echo
cry of pain

(and a ward of stability isn't bad)

rkubik · Jun 03, 2009, 01:05 PM // 13:05

I did it with my warrior with the basic sabway build modified to adjust for certain areas. With a caster go discord and drop the blood line and go curses like was already posted. PI is also your friend against the Jotun. The skullsmashers and Bloodcurdlers especially. It is not uncommon for one hit of PI to kill either especially with the Joptun smash skill or whatever the elite the curdlers carry (can't remember). Once you get into the swing of things it is pretty easy. Make sure you pull correctly. There are many of the jotuns that tend to patrol into each other or very close and if you agro too much just like anywhere else it is going to get tough. Good Luck

Yes like was already mentioned do not use the PVX Discord it is terrible. search some of these forums for ideas.

shaygo · Jun 03, 2009, 02:07 PM // 14:07

Discord is perfect for that job, I"ve done that many times with my necro. take 2 monks, interrupter and earth henchmen.
use an AP build with sin support, YMLD and finish him.
and yes, leave the blood jotun for last, cover you AP with another hex as long as the mesmer jotun is still alive.

Coast · Jun 03, 2009, 05:01 PM // 17:01

3discord necs +sabway, full discordway or 3discord necs +rojheroes(2real people obviously)

Astral · Jun 04, 2009, 10:37 AM // 10:37

lots of ideas,thanks alot peeps.
I'd be realy happy if anyone posted the Discordway build cause I haven't found in on wiki buiilds page.

KarimS · Jun 04, 2009, 10:56 AM // 10:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astral

lots of ideas,thanks alot peeps.
I'd be realy happy if anyone posted the Discordway build cause I haven't found in on wiki buiilds page.

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Discord_Spam

There you go

Astral · Jun 04, 2009, 09:11 PM // 21:11

oh cool thanks I feel a bit silly,I shaved the site for this buit and I couldn't find it

Chthon · Jun 05, 2009, 02:54 AM // 02:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarimS

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Discord_Spam

There you go

While it's certainly a large step up from running a blood magic build, discordway is pretty mediocre. Effective enough in most cases, but certainly not great. (Now watch me get trolled by traversc...)

Also for those who need to develop a deeper understanding to play the game well (and I count OP in that group if he's trying to vanquish with a life x-fer blood build), a mindless heroes-do-all-the-work build is not a great idea. It may get you through a number of zones you can't currently beat; but doesn't make *you* any better; and it doesn't deepen your understanding in ways that will help you get past the places where it doesn't work, or in ways that will help you improve upon it.

Astral · Jun 05, 2009, 10:21 AM // 10:21

I'll play around with all the ideas given here and see what I come up with.
Thanks for the insight :P

Fire The Nutter · Jun 11, 2009, 08:12 AM // 08:12

i've just rerolled my monk to a necro so i cant really comment from a necro point of view but for me your team setup is a little off.

I have found that if i run the equiv of a 3 monk backline then i lack the damage output to kill efficiently. Have you tried 2 monks?
I personally find a E/N Unsteady warder very useful in HM, particularly against the jotuns as you can slot in ward of stability to avoid the knockdowns, eruption for some good blind and suddenly your taking little to no damage from the warriors. I would advise being careful with the 2 EoTN monks, id previously taken them and then someone posted a comment on the healer bar (the prot one is fine), give some thought to bringing someone different (zho is great with BHA, Lo Sha useful with ineptitude).

The discord advice is sound but if you are h/h'ing then keep those points in mind