Curse

chrisbendsurmind · Dec 13, 2010, 05:36 AM // 05:36

First off let me say that I enjoy a 1 target spike, while this may not be most effective it is what I enjoy so I almost never nuke making mop and ss a bit undesirable.

What I was wondering is because of the quick recharge would both discord and Necrosis on the same bar be useless? Also, if running a bar with Discord, Necrosis, or both what other skills would you suggest.

I have been told that discord as a player is not very effective but I wanted to test this out myself being a person who tends to stay away from meta and making my own builds.

I don't ever find myself using hero's because I like having a full player party because after 3 years of Gw I find myself bored often so hero options are pretty useless. This also why I tend to hate MoP and SS because most players in Gw today can't ball worth a crap.

Thanks in advance!

Bristlebane · Dec 13, 2010, 07:23 AM // 07:23

How about instead skip Discord, use Serpent's Quickness + Dwarven Stability for a permanent 33% skill recharge. Necrosis should then be spammable only limited by the aftercast. While it locks you to use N/R or R/N, it gives you a choice of using any other elite skill.

Elmindreda Farshaw · Dec 13, 2010, 01:44 PM // 13:44

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you can take out the minion if you want for another hex.

Captain Bulldozer · Dec 13, 2010, 06:37 PM // 18:37

If you really want to run discord, there's no harm in also running necrosis. The recharge/casting time of each allows you to bounce back and forth between the two (use one as the other recharges). Also, if your heroes are good at putting hexes conditions out there instead of you having to do it yourself, you can pretty much spam these continuously for some pretty good single target damage.

Of course, running discord is not optimal, but at least you can use it a tad more effectively than a hero. It can be fun to play for a while, but overall there are better (and more fun) options. Good hunting.

gremlin · Dec 13, 2010, 07:24 PM // 19:24

Have you considered Signet of Sorrow as part of the bar.

Armour ignoring damage and instant recharge if target has a dead pet or is next to a corpse.

Its in soul reaping so you would need to put a lot of parts in that, anyway just an idea.

reaper with no name · Dec 13, 2010, 11:25 PM // 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Bulldozer

If you really want to run discord, there's no harm in also running necrosis. The recharge/casting time of each allows you to bounce back and forth between the two (use one as the other recharges). Also, if your heroes are good at putting hexes conditions out there instead of you having to do it yourself, you can pretty much spam these continuously for some pretty good single target damage.

Of course, running discord is not optimal, but at least you can use it a tad more effectively than a hero. It can be fun to play for a while, but overall there are better (and more fun) options. Good hunting.

You're forgetting the 3/4 aftercast delay. There is only a 1/4 delay between the time you technically finish Discord to the time that it recharges.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristlebane

How about instead skip Discord, use Serpent's Quickness + Dwarven Stability for a permanent 33% skill recharge. Necrosis should then be spammable only limited by the aftercast. While it locks you to use N/R or R/N, it gives you a choice of using any other elite skill.

This is a much better idea.

Arghore · Dec 14, 2010, 03:47 PM // 15:47

If i were to construct a build with Necrosis and Discord, with the idea to use it in PuG's, it would probably look somewhat like this:

Necro / Monk
Death: 12 + 1 + 3
Soul: 10 + 1
Curses: 3

Parasidic Bond (cheap hex, minor heal) - lasts 20sec or death
Withering Aura (weakness on ally's melee) - lasts 20 sec or death
Necrosis
Discord
Purid Bile (hex with splash death)
Signet of lost souls (self heal + energy)
Rebirth (run & rez)
Masochism (+2 death +2 soul)

This build does need a melee to spread the condition, but its a fast spell and it gives a 20+sec window to cast necrosis and discord, instead of an 8 sec window for say Enfeebling Blood or Weaken armor, it also has the extra charm of needing a teamm8 ... Purid bile is a hex aswell as some splash damage ... i prefer Rebirth as a rez, since it gets ppl outof sticky places, since you will be backline spiking you will probably have the time to decide to run instead of whipe, if you prefer scrolls than i would probably still considder weaken armor so you can apply conditions yourself ...

I realise that there are PvE only skills from the various races that could help you out (some norn spells cause conditions f/e), but since not everybody (or you) might have access to them, i stuck to normal Necro magic ...

Also didnt include any other professions, since most will need points to be effective and if there is a necro alternative, best spend points there...