Curse

awry · Mar 04, 2011, 06:07 AM // 06:07

Hey, wow, I'm suddenly better with death nova then the heroes.
Jagged Bones, HI!
Blood of the master? Damn, I don't have to estimate now.

I love the 'y' key.

Anyone found some skill they've found useful now? I should take a new look at taste of death. Maybe we can also re-examine AOTL PVP.

Calista Blackblood · Mar 04, 2011, 06:08 AM // 06:08

Magic little key is what we've been asking for for years now

<3

Life Bringing · Mar 04, 2011, 06:50 AM // 06:50

The problem with a human MB is that the results really arent going to be much(if at all) better than a hero running a MB. Running a minion bar yourself also takes away a possible hero option, of which there really arent many good choices

Grim Aragorn · Mar 04, 2011, 07:04 AM // 07:04

minion bomber is so 2006 run fiends with aotl

gremlin · Mar 04, 2011, 08:47 AM // 08:47

I found myself getting caught up in the unlife and undeath of my minion army.

10 health bars moving down some faster than others, I started using blood of the master more than I needed to.
I was paying more attention to that than anything else.

Its going to be really useful for targeting skills on individual minions and possibly working out which heal skills work well enough to perhaps replace blood otm.

all in all I am well impressed with the update.

chullster · Mar 04, 2011, 10:55 AM // 10:55

I agree, Jagged bones is suddenly a more fun skill to use, went out VQing with the mrs and dropped a hero bomber and tried it myself.

Sooo much fun to use nova, jagged and putrid, I can finally enjoy seeing the yellow numbers and keeping a larger pool of minions alive easier.

So much free space on the bar too, brought the ebon ward of wisdom, and some other random stuff.

GG anet.

Now, can I have the old version of AotL back please?

Kunder · Mar 04, 2011, 01:31 PM // 13:31

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Originally Posted by Life Bringing

The problem with a human MB is that the results really arent going to be much(if at all) better than a hero running a MB. Running a minion bar yourself also takes away a possible hero option, of which there really arent many good choices

Hero MBs are really damn stupid at using Death Nova. Half the time they cast it on a minion with 5 health and it dies before they finish, or they cast it and then spam BotM 3 times in a row.

Bellatrixa · Mar 04, 2011, 04:40 PM // 16:40

When I first heard that they were adding a minion panel, I made squeeing noises on Vent -blush- I am SO looking forward to being able to have complete control over my minions <3 I'd all but given up on trying to be an efficient MB until this update

Chocolate_Prayers · Mar 04, 2011, 07:33 PM // 19:33

AotL, Withering Aura, Death Nova, Strength of Honor, Great Dwarf Weapon

Go super minions! Go!

...

until they die.

Kunder · Mar 04, 2011, 07:47 PM // 19:47

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Originally Posted by Chocolate_Prayers

AotL, Withering Aura, Death Nova, Strength of Honor, Great Dwarf Weapon

Go super minions! Go!

...

until they die.

What? No OoU? You shame MMs.

Don't forget EBSoH. If you want to just get silly, have Volfen form from someone else as well. I think a single bone fiend would do somewhere on the order of 75 DPS with all of that?

If only other characters could see and target your minions on their minion list

LifeInfusion · Mar 05, 2011, 10:08 PM // 22:08

It also makes playing OoU less suicidal because you can count how many Vamp horrors you have vs fiends.
And you won't overheal as much with BOTM.

Zahr Dalsk · Mar 13, 2011, 01:30 PM // 13:30

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Originally Posted by chullster

Now, can I have the old version of AotL back please?

Was fun soloing the entire Luxon side in AB with just two MM necros, a monk, and me with AotL spamming BotM nonstop

Chthon · Mar 13, 2011, 05:03 PM // 17:03

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Originally Posted by LifeInfusion

It also makes playing OoU less suicidal because you can count how many Vamp horrors you have vs fiends.
And you won't overheal as much with BOTM.

Good MM's used to keep track in their head. This just made it easier.

Xenomortis · Mar 13, 2011, 05:06 PM // 17:06

If Feast for the Dead weren't on a 10 second recharge I'd be tempted to run bombing bars.
I still am, but Taste of Death isn't very satisfying and Putrid Flesh isn't all that strong for its cost. Besides, I haven't had a reason to try it yet.

CrustyEarl · Mar 19, 2011, 10:56 PM // 22:56

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Hero MBs are really damn stupid at using Death Nova. Half the time they cast it on a minion with 5 health and it dies before they finish, or they cast it and then spam BotM 3 times in a row.

Why would you put BoTM on a Bomber? Doesn't that defeat the purpose? It's the same for the people that use Masochism on a bomber. If your trying to blow things up why would you attempt to prolong it's life?

**Marty Silverblade** · Mar 19, 2011, 11:06 PM // 23:06

I don't run it, but it's for keeping the minions alive while moving between mobs. Masochism makes more sense though. DM+2=1 more minion (and better minions, and more powerful DM skills), and SR+2=more energy.

CrustyEarl · Mar 19, 2011, 11:56 PM // 23:56

Masochism does make more sense now.

Kyp Jade · Mar 22, 2011, 01:18 AM // 01:18

The most useful thing out of this update is the ability to use great dwarf weapon with ease on minions. Bringing Fiends is now strong again, and playing a bomber bar with GDW boosted fiends is a LOT of damage

Kunder · Mar 22, 2011, 01:27 AM // 01:27

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Originally Posted by CrustyEarl

Why would you put BoTM on a Bomber? Doesn't that defeat the purpose? It's the same for the people that use Masochism on a bomber. If your trying to blow things up why would you attempt to prolong it's life?

Low level minions that enter a fight with lvl 28s without max health die far faster than a 2s death nova cast can react. If your minions just die before you get death nova on the entire build is a failure.

Masochism is just ridiculously useful. If you aren't running it you are bad.

IronSheik · Mar 23, 2011, 01:58 AM // 01:58

I prefer to still run aura of the lich as my single minion skill, use once per group, no more minion spawning skills, then micro death nova as they die

Rest of bar is support skills for team, EBSoH, GDW, Flesh, Maso, SolS, etc