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Dean Harper · Jul 14, 2007, 04:55 AM // 04:55

I also want to knwo whether i should go smiting first and switch to prot(i want prot not healing). my monk is from prophecies for the free skills.

Kuldebar Valiturus · Jul 14, 2007, 05:04 AM // 05:04

It's a tough choice and I'm facing it myself and trying not to feel locked in too much. I have had Monks before but given them up, this time I'm trying to stick with one.

I have chosen a Mo/Me...which appears to be a favorite of certain farming automatons, much to my chagrin. But, the hard part is finding a "fun way" to monk...I really want smite and hexes (hence my 2nd prof choice) but there really doesn't seem to be a big reputation for offensive monks in the game. Honestly, with henchies and heroes as common healers, I feel a player that rolled a Monk has their work cut out for them.

So, what to do, what to do?

I don't mind healing, not as keen on a protection build, but at the end of the day I can't shake the feeling that I'll never be as reliable as an computerized Monk.

Stormlord Alex · Jul 14, 2007, 09:14 AM // 09:14

Earlier on, I'd say to stick with Smiting (with maybe a couple of prot skills, like Aegis, when needed) and let the Hench healer take care of you. If you PuG earlier on, a mix of healing and protection skills is the best way to go - it's easy enough keeping everyone alive with RoF and Orison.

Later on, when you get all the good prot skills, then you can switch.

The important thing is to not get bogged down with the same buildset - whilst monks are definitive support characters, they're flexible in their speciality.
Carry around seperate scalp designs, so you can switch between healing, protection and smiting as the situation calls for it.
Personally, I go Smite all the time with Hero/Hench, the AI's reflexes are too damn good.

Age · Jul 15, 2007, 05:18 AM // 05:18

I would go healing then protect forget about smiting for now and concentrate on your primary no 1 jop keeping other alive even if they are AI.I know it get boring keeping AI alive but it improves your game play and skill lvl and what to watch out for.When it comes to real players and you heal or protect them you get a sense of accomplishment it really feels good inside believe me it does especially if no one dies or just a few.

I would leave the smiting for solo or farming groups.There are lots of builds around as well as stickies just look around.

Spazzer · Jul 16, 2007, 05:08 AM // 05:08

Any time you are tempted to take Orison of Healing, taking Reversal of Fortune instead.

You don't have a huge selection of very potent protection skills in Prophecies. Protection is a great line, made even better by completely broken skills in its line like Dismiss Condition and Zealous Benediction. Of the skills available in Prophecies, your most powerful (non-healing) Monk abilities will be:

Reversal Of Fortune (core)
Guardian (core)
Protective Spirit (core)
Smite Hex (core)
Signet Of Devotion (core)

I think you get the idea.

matti90 · Jul 16, 2007, 12:11 PM // 12:11

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Originally Posted by spazzer

Any time you are tempted to take Orison of Healing, taking Reversal of Fortune instead.

Best advice of the thread.

Utaku · Jul 16, 2007, 01:27 PM // 13:27

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Originally Posted by Kuldebar Valiturus

I don't mind healing, not as keen on a protection build, but at the end of the day I can't shake the feeling that I'll never be as reliable as an computerized Monk.

Computerized monks in prophecies can't remove conditions and hexes, and cast healing breeze on bleeding people and prot spirit on minions.
It's easy to be a better monk than mehnlo/alesia and lina...

Pick Me · Jul 16, 2007, 05:06 PM // 17:06

I have a Mo/E and I usually start off with a healing monk, mainly healing myself. I'll go offense in post searing if I hench, as Alesia heals me okay and the rest of the henchies I find can't do enough damage to kill fast enough.

I use GoLE for my e-management, and heal or protect humans. I bring ele spells for damage when I hench. I smite undead or when I hench and ele spells won't help much (or when I'm tired of using ele spells).

Age · Jul 16, 2007, 06:15 PM // 18:15

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Originally Posted by Pick Me

I have a Mo/E and I usually start off with a healing monk, mainly healing myself. I'll go offense in post searing if I hench, as Alesia heals me okay and the rest of the henchies I find can't do enough damage to kill fast enough.

I use GoLE for my e-management, and heal or protect humans. I bring ele spells for damage when I hench. I smite undead or when I hench and ele spells won't help much (or when I'm tired of using ele spells).

Why are you useing Aleisia as you should be the only Monk in the group and no other.I did this for awhile but it doesn't help your skill lvl out.I would stick to being the only Monk even in 6 man party.

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Originally Posted bySpazzer
Any time you are tempted to take Orison of Healing, taking Reversal of Fortune instead.

You don't have a huge selection of very potent protection skills in Prophecies. Protection is a great line, made even better by completely broken skills in its line like Dismiss Condition and Zealous Benediction. Of the skills available in Prophecies, your most powerful (non-healing) Monk abilities will be:

Reversal Of Fortune (core)
Guardian (core)
Protective Spirit (core)
Smite Hex (core)
Signet Of Devotion (core)

You don't need to take Reversal of Fortune early in the game untill about lvl 10 or 13 and make a hybrid heal/protect.This early in the game in around Ascalon you only want 3 to 5 skills on your bar.Holy Veil would be better than smite hex.

Pick Me · Jul 16, 2007, 06:50 PM // 18:50

@Age:

When I hench, I don't become the dedicated healer, as I stated before, henchies don't kill quick enough (not for me anyway). So instead of healing or using protective skills on my henchie party, I kill to eliminate any further damage taken. Alesia early in the game does fine healing. I trust her to do her job, so I can do mine. If I'm in a 6 man party, I'll heal/protect the party by myself (unless in HM).

I think I can understand your point of view (assuming I'm right about knowing your point of view), to become a better monk, heal/protect the henchies, as they have no dissapline at all. Mhenlo in Prophecies and in Factions really gets on my nerves. He is an aggro magnet, like he is better than everyone and feels like he doesn't get the respect he deserves, so he punishes every group by aggroing everything in sight.

Age · Jul 16, 2007, 09:47 PM // 21:47

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Originally Posted by Pick Me

@Age:

When I hench, I don't become the dedicated healer, as I stated before, henchies don't kill quick enough (not for me anyway). So instead of healing or using protective skills on my henchie party, I kill to eliminate any further damage taken. Alesia early in the game does fine healing. I trust her to do her job, so I can do mine. If I'm in a 6 man party, I'll heal/protect the party by myself (unless in HM).

I think I can understand your point of view (assuming I'm right about knowing your point of view), to become a better monk, heal/protect the henchies, as they have no dissapline at all. Mhenlo in Prophecies and in Factions really gets on my nerves. He is an aggro magnet, like he is better than everyone and feels like he doesn't get the respect he deserves, so he punishes every group by aggroing everything in sight.

You mean you are smiting in post searing it doesn't take long for Stefan and Orion to do the damage needed.It would be nice from beginning on to have a much more variety of henchmen.Did you read my first post about being the healer instead of Alesia.

Everyone knows about Mhenlo as he isn't has good as Alesia when it come right down to it.It seems she heals better than he does and kites more.That is one thing you have to do is learn to Kite.I wouldn't feel a sence of accomplishment in post searing if I smited.

Pick Me · Jul 17, 2007, 12:11 PM // 12:11

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Originally Posted by Age

You mean you are smiting in post searing it doesn't take long for Stefan and Orion to do the damage needed.It would be nice from beginning on to have a much more variety of henchmen.Did you read my first post about being the healer instead of Alesia.

Everyone knows about Mhenlo as he isn't has good as Alesia when it come right down to it.It seems she heals better than he does and kites more.That is one thing you have to do is learn to Kite.I wouldn't feel a sence of accomplishment in post searing if I smited.

I do smite (on the odd time) in post searing. I almost never take Orion, I think I took the ranger instead as my 4th party member. I did ready your first post in this thread about the A.I. and the role the human monk should play regarding henchies.

While I still maintain that humans in general are better than computer AI, I do encounter the odd carefree spirit that enjoys killing and taking on enemies on by their lonesome selves (then expect me to heal them). I also get the few people that keep spamming (I'm dead) over and over again as if they make all the difference (1 down out of 8, sorry I'm healing the rest of the party and you ran off with no self healing to aggro more monsters).

Perhaps babysitting computer AI will prepare some monks on how to heal or who to heal (ranking of most important professions) for when they PUG. However, I find it more fun not to heal all the time. I protect, I bond, I heal in PUGs, I don't want to do that if I'm the only human in the party.

You may not feel any accomplishment on doing a non-monk job, such as going offensive, but I feel more entertained.

We all our own opinions and views of what is fun, so I totally respect your's Age.

Age · Jul 17, 2007, 09:27 PM // 21:27

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Originally Posted by Pick Me

I do smite (on the odd time) in post searing. I almost never take Orion, I think I took the ranger instead as my 4th party member. I did ready your first post in this thread about the A.I. and the role the human monk should play regarding henchies.

While I still maintain that humans in general are better than computer AI, I do encounter the odd carefree spirit that enjoys killing and taking on enemies on by their lonesome selves (then expect me to heal them). I also get the few people that keep spamming (I'm dead) over and over again as if they make all the difference (1 down out of 8, sorry I'm healing the rest of the party and you ran off with no self healing to aggro more monsters).

Perhaps babysitting computer AI will prepare some monks on how to heal or who to heal (ranking of most important professions) for when they PUG. However, I find it more fun not to heal all the time. I protect, I bond, I heal in PUGs, I don't want to do that if I'm the only human in the party.

You may not feel any accomplishment on doing a non-monk job, such as going offensive, but I feel more entertained.

We all our own opinions and views of what is fun, so I totally respect your's Age.

If you are high lvl and are using AI then it is perfectly fine to do it.I am just trying to address the low to mid. lvl Monks.