Oct 03, 2008, 11:54 AM // 11:54
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Wilds Pathfinder
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Shields vs. Damage Type
Hello monks,
I have been moking quite a bit on RA and it's fun despite being a 'lower level of pvp' (no time/friends to get into organized PvP like HA/GvG/TA).
Currently at rank 3 gladiator most of which I earned monking the last few months, so I'm not a total noob but I have a shield question:
People often tell me to use shields vs. specific damage types (say +10 vs. blunt, piercing, fire, etc) and switch depending on the situation.
However, how can I tell if a Warrior, for example, is using a Hammer with an elemental prefix? Say it uses an Ebon Hammer, it will hit me for Earth damage, so switching to a +10 vs. Blunt shield will basically do nothing for me. Should I just switch anyway and hope it will be physical damage?
I currently use a shield with 20% chance of -5 damage, +30 health and -20% daze, with a Spear of Enchanting. I also have a high energy set (staff/wand).
Please let me know how you guys identify the damage you take.
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Oct 03, 2008, 12:23 PM // 12:23
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#2
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Guild: Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]
Profession: W/E
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If they're /E and using a conjure, that's the only way you can tell if there's an elemental prefix on their weapon. If you have a war with a hammer on your nuts, switch to a +armor vs blunt damage shield. If it happens to be ebon, so what, it's only RA.
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Oct 03, 2008, 01:21 PM // 13:21
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#3
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Québec
Guild: Legacy of Angels [Halo]
Profession: E/
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At the start of the fight check /E physicals for conjures. Check what elements the elementalists are using and load 1-2 shield sets to your quick swap. Its only RA so its not so important and you can assume that the warrior will probably be using sundering anyway.. unless of course they have a clue.
Concerning the -5 Physical dmg (20%), its rather useless imo. Salvage it with a perfect kit and sell it.
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Oct 03, 2008, 03:29 PM // 15:29
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Seattle
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Windf0rce
However, how can I tell if a Warrior, for example, is using a Hammer with an elemental prefix? Say it uses an Ebon Hammer, it will hit me for Earth damage, so switching to a +10 vs. Blunt shield will basically do nothing for me. Should I just switch anyway and hope it will be physical damage?
I currently use a shield with 20% chance of -5 damage, +30 health and -20% daze, with a Spear of Enchanting. I also have a high energy set (staff/wand).
Please let me know how you guys identify the damage you take.
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the great majority of the wars you face in RA won't have an ele prefixed weapon, unless they are conjure (watch animations, keep tab focus on them if you're unsure). odds are they will do physical damage. the majority of the physical damage will be piercing (sins, rangers, paras) so that will be your primary shield set. some monks in ra even carry +60 while hexed sets for times when there's a necro-mes group.
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Oct 03, 2008, 07:38 PM // 19:38
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#5
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: just chillin
Guild: Omg Gwen Is Legal [EotN]
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a ton of physicals just use zealous vampiric or sundering, so no way around that, but basically /agree with everyone above me just check for /E and watch primary ele's attunements/precasts to see what they have.
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Oct 06, 2008, 12:58 PM // 12:58
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#6
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Ashford Abbey
Guild: Hey Mallyx [icU]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damus
some monks in ra even carry +60 while hexed sets for times when there's a necro-mes group.
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I personally love the +60 while hexed shields.
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Oct 06, 2008, 01:04 PM // 13:04
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Ganking, USA
Guild: Retired
Profession: R/
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I spent part of Sunday in TA with some PvE friends (I'm more PvP than PvE) I attempted to explain to the casters in my group why shield sets are importand and that they should use a PvP only so they could create one of every shield with vs +10 armor. None of them really understood why. But a sheild set reduces tons of damage when it's vs the proper attribute.
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Oct 11, 2008, 07:42 AM // 07:42
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#8
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I like yumy food!
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Where I can eat yumy food
Guild: Dead Alley [dR]
Profession: Mo/R
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Chances are, 80% of the non-conjure warriors you face will have sundering (unless they are strong fiery dragon sword wammo). Plus, no one runs around with an elemental weapon if they're not conjure. It's even worse than sundering :<
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Oct 11, 2008, 05:03 PM // 17:03
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#9
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Academy Page
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Central Colorado
Guild: Laid Back Crew [Laid]
Profession: A/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
Chances are, 80% of the non-conjure warriors you face will have sundering (unless they are strong fiery dragon sword wammo). Plus, no one runs around with an elemental weapon if they're not conjure. It's even worse than sundering :<
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On the contrary, you don't go after a paragon (lol who plays this?) or warrior without an elemental weapon. Albeit, you won't go after a monk with one if you have half a brain. Generally it will be Vampiric (Sword / Axe) / Zealous (Some high energy spamming bulds use one, fairly uncommon though) / Sundering (Axe/Hammer), which is obviously all physical damage, and primarily slashing.
My monk carries a +10 vs Slashing and Piercing, as well as condition shields and a hex set (that I rarely use).
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Nov 03, 2008, 03:05 PM // 15:05
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#10
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Jul 2008
Guild: Bambis dont Say [Meow]
Profession: Mo/
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ok and now to a direct question :
How much dmg would the +8 armor u get from a shield reduce.. And how much dmg would it reduce to have +10 armor vs the dmg type?
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Nov 03, 2008, 04:23 PM // 16:23
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#11
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Emo Goth Italics
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Well, +40AL is 50% mitigation, and taking that down let's just say it's 12.5% mitigation.
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Nov 04, 2008, 04:08 AM // 04:08
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#12
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Australia
Guild: Venatio Illuminata [VEIL]
Profession: W/
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+8 armor reduces damage by ~13%
+18 armor reduces damage by ~27%
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