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Oven · Oct 09, 2006, 11:49 AM // 11:49

I started a mesmer about 2 months ago and now I also started a monk. Personally I would say that monking is a lot harder than mesmering both in PvE and PvP. However, playing a mesmer is alot more fun than monking. Especially since you dont get wammos and tanking assassin's flaming you for not healing them. Since most wammos and tanking assassins dont actually know what a mesmer does, they can't actually say anything about you :P

Valkyries · Oct 09, 2006, 12:15 PM // 12:15

Heh... so true Oven.

I play all the chars (except Ranger because I simply don't like it but I have tried it) and by FAR Mesmers are the most fun to play IMO.

I love my Mesmer and its easily the one I enjoy the most especially in PVP. Then its just endless hours or torment for other people. hehehe...

Monks are quite difficult, not because its a hard class... but because people are brain dead and no matter how much you say LURE, DONT DO THAT, STOP THE AGGRO, they still think they can't be beat. Then when its done they flex and say "ya, look at that DPS I did".

Drives me crazy. Luckily with my Monk I can hench 99.9% of the missions... so I usually don't even deal with PUgs. HENCH>PUGS anyday

HalPlantagenet · Oct 09, 2006, 05:57 PM // 17:57

Apologies for the belated clarification: I was being ironic.

I am currently playing my mesmer (who has completed all the Tyrian and Canthan missions and quests mostly with one other guildie and henchies) much of the time and find it difficult to decide which I prefer, the mesmer or the ranger. Both archetypes offer great diversity, challenge and opportunities for subtle play which was part of my sometimes misunderstood previous post. To be blunt, mesmers rock; I hope that is sufficiently clear.

With regard to my comment about warriors, I have also played one through both games and experimented and have found few builds which compare with the dps of a mesmer equiped with IW and Flurry, that isn't to say that there aren't any. But is important to note the difference between peak damage and sustained damage and the effect of the accelerator for the mesmer. I'd love to see some objective data if someone would like to post or offer a pointer. It might be pertinent for another thread, however. Cheers.

Dean Harper · Oct 10, 2006, 12:14 AM // 00:14

I have to say again, mesmers jsut happen to be one of the greatest profs in the game, since, like some other ppl said, elites for mesmers are the most effective of all profs, since u use ur other skills around them. Also, i have to say, the way i fix that ejaculation problem is by playing a male mes, that way, i dont get horny online, and interrupt my gameplay with wetting myself....

Dean Harper · Oct 10, 2006, 12:18 AM // 00:18

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Originally Posted by HalPlantagenet

Apologies for the belated clarification: I was being ironic.

I am currently playing my mesmer (who has completed all the Tyrian and Canthan missions and quests mostly with one other guildie and henchies) much of the time and find it difficult to decide which I prefer, the mesmer or the ranger. Both archetypes offer great diversity, challenge and opportunities for subtle play which was part of my sometimes misunderstood previous post. To be blunt, mesmers rock; I hope that is sufficiently clear.

With regard to my comment about warriors, I have also played one through both games and experimented and have found few builds which compare with the dps of a mesmer equiped with IW and Flurry, that isn't to say that there aren't any. But is important to note the difference between peak damage and sustained damage and the effect of the accelerator for the mesmer. I'd love to see some objective data if someone would like to post or offer a pointer. It might be pertinent for another thread, however. Cheers.

i agree very much that rangers are appealing, though mesmers satisfy me more, rangers just have a kind of technique to play them, and can be hard, since you need to be strategic in placing traps, etc. o, and srry about my harsh post man, thought u were being serious, lol

Effigy · Oct 10, 2006, 03:52 PM // 15:52

From my experience, monking is probably harder simply because there is a very high standard for success. If a mesmer misses any interrupt, they generally won't be shamed for it by their team. Not so if a monk misses a heal/prot.

Strictly speaking though, a mesmer's job really isn't any easier. Effective shutdown requires a lot of battlefield awareness and microing. Monks and mesmers are similar in many ways, they just occupy different ends of the spectrum--mesmers are generally offensive support, while monks are usually defensive support.

HalPlantagenet · Oct 10, 2006, 05:45 PM // 17:45

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Originally Posted by Effigy

Monks and mesmers are similar in many ways, they just occupy different ends of the spectrum--mesmers are generally offensive support, while monks are usually defensive support.

Excellent, apt comparison. I hadn't thought about the two in that context but you are absolutely right.

Priest Of Sin · Oct 22, 2006, 12:27 AM // 00:27

Best part about the mesmer: interrupting Reversal Of Fortune.... it doesn't get ANY better than that...

Avarre · Oct 22, 2006, 02:37 AM // 02:37

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Originally Posted by Priest Of Sin

Best part about the mesmer: interrupting Reversal Of Fortune.... it doesn't get ANY better than that...

Wrong, best part is interrupting an enemy interrupt that was aiming at a rof on your team

Imo, both mesmering and monking are fairly easy to do, but very hard to do especially well.

Oven · Oct 25, 2006, 11:54 PM // 23:54

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Originally Posted by Avarre

Wrong, best part is interrupting an enemy interrupt that was aiming at a rof on your team

You know, I never thought that interrupting an interrupt was at all possible... until I met a mesmer that interrupted savage shot. That was either a fluke or she was one hell of a skillful mesmer.

Mesmer in Need · Oct 26, 2006, 12:12 AM // 00:12

well guys, if you havent noticed yet, i do play a mesmer (shocking isnt it) and i love them. i played on my friends account as a warrior for a couple months, and finnaly decided to get my own account. i always saw one or two mesmers running around towns, so my first character that i made is a mesmer. and i saw the light. i beath the gamer with her, and am currently going through factions and throwing in some pvp. it think mesmers are the greatest, most versital profession ever.

Arcanis the Omnipotent · Oct 26, 2006, 01:27 AM // 01:27

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Originally Posted by Oven

You know, I never thought that interrupting an interrupt was at all possible... until I met a mesmer that interrupted savage shot. That was either a fluke or she was one hell of a skillful mesmer.

Alot of times, interupting is about having been in enough battles to know what to expect out of a player or profession. More or less being able to predict what they'll do and when. And alot of times, casting the interupt before you even see them do their skill on the Skill Monitor. So you're interupting an interupter, you just need to expect they'll be doing something and interupt them even if they're doing nothing.

Its hard to explain...

Avarre · Oct 26, 2006, 02:27 AM // 02:27

My best interrupt was on a savage shot aimed at our ghostly hero at 8 seconds remaining. We capped and won halls.

As for interrupting in general... you need to get a feel of the enemy casting patterns. For example, if you notice someone casting alot in chains, or, more generically, a monk when the team is heavily under pressure.

In the situation (HA in this example) when the other team is under heavy pressure in such, I tend to watch their monks with a leech sig (while monking, or other skills on different characters). Make sure you know what skills they're using, and make sure the ones being used are recharged. When you get to learn their pattern, you can often fire off an interrupt and hit a RoF cleanly. It's not something that can be taught so much as practiced and felt.

In my case, I see when the enemy monk (in this case) is not casting (casts are usually after a period of inaction, after all), and then at the point when I feel I would use RoF, RC, or whatever skill, I use an interrupt. It's quite possible to hit, but yes, luck does factor heavily (on the 1/4 casts, at least).

Lithrim · Oct 26, 2006, 01:38 PM // 13:38

Being a fairly new mesmer myself I felt I wanted to share my experience here. Started my mesmer in tyria (for the better looks :P) a few months ago and he became my primary character immediatly. I love interrupting! And I love punishing warriors and rangers.
My best punish was a Shadow Ranger using barrage, I had empaty, SS and insidious parasite on him. He died after one shot with barrage. Sadly I was out of energy by then and had to wait a little before next ranger died. :P

I have finished both prophecies and factions but am still finding new ways to play and new experiences. Only sad part is that most pugs dont realise a mesmers potetial, so it can be hard finding a farm team now when Im saving for kurzicks 15 k armor, which are going to be dyed silver. I farm a little on my own with a IW 55hp build, but I like more the big fight with a party where I can interrupt and punish, and laugh at a Power Blocked monk not doing anything!

Cant wait until tomorrow though. NIGHTFALL!!! More things to do with my favorite!

Priest Of Sin · Oct 27, 2006, 03:43 AM // 03:43

Interrupting Savage shot aimed at interrupting power leak aimed at interrupting punishing shot aimed at interrupting power spike aimed at interrupting power return aimed at interrupting power block aimed at interrupting reversal of fortune.

Check and Mate, Avarre

Avarre · Oct 27, 2006, 03:46 AM // 03:46

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Originally Posted by Priest Of Sin

interrupting power leak aimed at interrupting punishing shot

Power leak can't interrupt skills.