Curse

Cuilan · Apr 08, 2011, 10:16 PM // 22:16

Whatever elite skill you're using, because it's an elite.

Caw521 · Apr 09, 2011, 02:55 AM // 02:55

Haha, sorry about the abbreviations and stuff, I'll try to be more comprehensible.

So um, if you want your pet to have a use, you could try going for Scavenger's Strike for hard energy gain and some damage. Just make sure that the foe it hits has a condition, and you have a high enough beast mastery rank for decent energy reimbursement.

And yeah, I'd see the build heading towards a pvp build instead of a pve build due to single target pressure vs multiple target skills.

Btw, nice picture

CailinArian · Apr 09, 2011, 03:05 AM // 03:05

I've been playing this game on and off for five years. xD And abbreviations STILL throw me off. I'm not the n00biest n00b but it's hard for me to really learn the ins and outs since people I party with forget me when I don't log on for a while.

All I've ever really been good at is PvE, because people are jerks in PvP and it makes me not wanna play. So a lot of my current skills are single target skills? I know Wandering Eye is multi-target (freakin' love that spell)

Thank you. xD I drew Rexy way cuter than she actually is. She's pretty useless, but sometimes when there's a huge mob they usually focus on her instead of me. Which is nice. My character is very squishy.

Cuilan · Apr 09, 2011, 03:26 AM // 03:26

I think you can turn your non-guild chat channels off and hide your compass while you're set to do not disturb for PvP.

CailinArian · Apr 09, 2011, 07:50 PM // 19:50

Dear Belldonna,

Ineptitude is BOSS. <3

Thanks!

CailinArian · Apr 11, 2011, 01:50 PM // 13:50

I changed my build to

1. Wandering Eye
2. Clumsiness
3. Images of Remorse
4. Shrinking Armor
5. Arcane Conundrum
6. Power Drain
7. Mantra of Persistence
8. Ineptitude

Cuilan · Apr 11, 2011, 04:53 PM // 16:53

Replace Mantra of Persistence with Accumulated Pain and Power Drain with Drain Delusions. Then replace Images of Remorse with Fragility now that you have three conditions. Should look like this.

CailinArian · Apr 11, 2011, 11:22 PM // 23:22

Ummmm.

Everyone was saying user Power Drain.

Haggis of Doom · Apr 12, 2011, 12:14 AM // 00:14

Well, I said Drain Delusions for players and Power Drain for heroes

Drain Delusions is really, really powerful on Illusion bars. Think of all the shiny energy you get when you take Arcane Conundrum off enemy rangers.

LifeInfusion · Apr 12, 2011, 12:17 AM // 00:17

Players can use Powerdrain too. However, you're running Shrinking Armor+Images of remorse : both these aren't doing much on their own and are shatter/drain delusions fodder.

Mantra of persistence is pointless because if the images of remorse/shrinking armor get lengthened they don't do much more.

CailinArian · Apr 12, 2011, 12:20 AM // 00:20

Well, I changed out Images of Remorse with Accumulated Pain, and I replaced Mantra of Persistence with Fragility.

Cuilan · Apr 12, 2011, 01:42 AM // 01:42

You have hexes on this build that you want to end at some point (Arcane Conundrum and Shrinking Armor) so Drain Delusions is the most useful choice.

CailinArian · Apr 12, 2011, 01:43 AM // 01:43

Why would I want to end them?

Cuilan · Apr 12, 2011, 01:50 AM // 01:50

For energy to use more skills and to have cracked armor from the hex, as the degen won't do much. Most physical foes don't have spells, so Arcane Conundrum won't slow them.

Chthon · Apr 12, 2011, 03:42 AM // 03:42

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Originally Posted by Cuilan

You should always ask why and if you don't like their answer you can either counter it or have them explain better.

Enchantments that tend to renew are easily removed because they're brought to the top of the enchantment stack. That makes it hard to cover and could be why they didn't care for you using it.

I'm also a fan of Tease and would use that over LA.

In addition, Lyssa's Aura does not do anything besides providing energy. While you can get energy from several possible sources, you only have one elite slot to spend. While not all elites are good, good elites often provide a unique functionality that is much stronger than normal skills. And you're not getting that from LA -- just a better version of a dozen different Inspiration non-elites.

pingu666 · Apr 19, 2011, 01:34 AM // 01:34

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Originally Posted by Caw521

Haha, sorry about the abbreviations and stuff, I'll try to be more comprehensible.

So um, if you want your pet to have a use, you could try going for Scavenger's Strike for hard energy gain and some damage. Just make sure that the foe it hits has a condition, and you have a high enough beast mastery rank for decent energy reimbursement.

And yeah, I'd see the build heading towards a pvp build instead of a pve build due to single target pressure vs multiple target skills.

Btw, nice picture

i like the pic too

, with the pet scavenger strike is the most obivous use, rank 8/9 it is pretty decent energy management

ineptitude, scavenger strike, "finish him" pve skill, epidemic? then filler

thetwistedboy · Apr 19, 2011, 03:14 AM // 03:14

I dislike when people ask for help for their builds as a whole because everyone here just tells them the Meta options and the new player doesn't learn anything. When I got Prophecies, my warrior used all energy attack skills and all energy prophecies skills and the only adrenaline skills were Galrath Slash and I think Final Thrust. I beat Prophecies and EotN with that build.

I small while after beating EotN I found out about elite skills. It took me a year of playing Guild Wars and beating all the campaigns to figure out how to make a meh-ish build for me and monk heroes.

I really think that people here should stop throwing the Meta stuff at new players because it takes the fun out of learning. Give them suggestions and options, but don't just say use Ineptitude, Wandering Eye, Clumsiness, Arcane Conundrum, etc and there is one of the best builds in the game. Hooray.

Just work with things and experiment.

Voodoo Rage · Apr 19, 2011, 03:28 AM // 03:28

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Originally Posted by thetwistedboy

I dislike when people ask for help for their builds as a whole because everyone here just tells them the Meta options and the new player doesn't learn anything.

I think that sounds good in theory but the reality is that a lot of players really aren't good at recognizing when their build is bad and the only "learning" that goes on is slogging through the game with a bad build many times losing interest in the process and getting frustrated. I know because I was one of those people, frustrating myself with a terrible touch ranger build all the way through Prophecies and nearly giving up at the end.

A couple builds pinged in my guild chat recently that I captured:

Both of these guys played these builds through entire campaigns. I don't think they are learning that much other than that the game is harder for them than it should be.

For me I actually learned a lot working out of "meta" type of builds. When you get a nice build, you start to realize a lot of keys to good build design that you might not have been aware of before like good energy management, synergy, and just plain damage output. As I posted in another thread, I think you are going to learn a lot more on how to build a car if someone gives you a working car in the first place to take apart and tinker with.

Cuilan · Apr 19, 2011, 04:07 AM // 04:07

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Originally Posted by thetwistedboy

I really think that people here should stop throwing the Meta stuff at new players because it takes the fun out of learning.

They can always ask or observe. Using a meta or non-meta build doesn't change that.

CailinArian · Apr 19, 2011, 12:12 PM // 12:12

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Originally Posted by thetwistedboy

Meta options and the new player doesn't learn

lololol I've been playing off and on for five years. xD

What is a meta build? o_o