Curse

Cebe · Oct 18, 2006, 08:38 AM // 08:38

I'm sure people will have looked at the title of this thread and thought "OMGWTFBBQPWN you can't have an elementalist runner"...well, this is why I need help. I shall explain...

I need to explore a small spot at the bottom of Lornar's Pass...by where all the grawl and ice golems are. I really can't be bothered to fight my way down there with 5 low level hench from Beacon's Perch and also can not be bothered to fight my way up even further from Camp Rankor or Deldrimor War Camp with a party of 8 henchmen.

My plan was to run and hope for the best! This is what I need help with. There are a few elementalist skills which could be beneficial whilst running but then again they also seem to have long recharges. I know that rangers and warriors can be good at running down Lornar's Pass also...

I'd like people's opinions on what may be a good build for such a job, including changing secondary if necessary (I cam currently E/N). I have all the elementalist elites and all but maybe 3 of the non-elites (in both prophecies and factions). SKills I thought may be useful were Mirror of Ice, Mist Form, Armor of Mist, Swirling Aura, Windborne Speed. Having never played a warrior and never tried running with ranger I wondered could anyone suggest a build which has the potential to get me down there alive?

Evilsod · Oct 18, 2006, 12:29 PM // 12:29

Theres a build somewhere. And yes it used Mist Form, Armour of Mist and various others, inc Kinetic Armour and Balanced Stance.

The run from Beacons to Droks with an Elementalist is nothing in comparison to how long it took to get my Necro to run there...

Cebe · Oct 18, 2006, 01:04 PM // 13:04

Ah cool, thanks...so I'd need to be E/W then for balanced stance? Can anyone tell me where I may find this build...?

I wasn't planning on running to Droks btw, only to the bottom of Lornar's Pass to explore the small spot I missed along the way previously. Hopefully I have all of Dreadnaughts Drift and I plan on working on the southern half of Snake Dance this evening.

Evilsod · Oct 18, 2006, 02:31 PM // 14:31

It'd be much more effective to just fight up from Snake Dance with henchman... at least then you could get every single corner, half of the place can't be reached using a runner (CA/Shatter ftw). And to have any hope of getting past Wurms/Giants you need Balanced Stance.

i Valinor · Oct 18, 2006, 02:54 PM // 14:54

for the northern shiver peaks and other easy areas i used a ele/sin
max water max shadow and hte rest into energy storage

dark escape (12 second run and reduces damage by 1/2)
dash (good to get a lead to drop ward vs foes)
shadow refuge
mist form-e-
armor of mist (21 second run + 20% enchanting)
scorpionn defense (i hate getting stuck in a corner)
frozen burst (snare to slow everything down)
ward vs foes (again another mass snare)

condition arnt really a problem but hexes where a bit of a pain in some areas.

iV

Thom Bangalter · Oct 18, 2006, 05:54 PM // 17:54

I would reccomend using some sort of E/A build with shadow form and any and all speed buffs they have. It'll be a lot slower, but shadow form>mist form. especially if there are ice imps around. The only thing you then have to worry about is KD.

Evilsod · Oct 18, 2006, 06:52 PM // 18:52

Yeah and a constant knockdown caused by a creature that has no 'break and return' distance is usually something that causes alot of worry on a droknars run... not all groups can be cleared in the 17seconds Shadow Form gives.

Hyprodimus Prime · Oct 18, 2006, 11:51 PM // 23:51

I use this, it cant run droks though. http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/E/R_Mist_Runner
See the problem with an ele is that it cant deal with hexes AND KD at the same time.

Cebe · Oct 19, 2006, 08:46 AM // 08:46

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Originally Posted by Hyprodimus Prime

I use this, it cant run droks though. http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/E/R_Mist_Runner
See the problem with an ele is that it cant deal with hexes AND KD at the same time.

Thanks for that link...I tried looking on Guildwiki for something but I find looking for buids on there difficult. A while back I found a good page on that site with lists of builds on but I couldn't find it when I wanted it!

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Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

I would reccomend using some sort of E/A build with shadow form and any and all speed buffs they have. It'll be a lot slower, but shadow form>mist form. especially if there are ice imps around. The only thing you then have to worry about is KD.

Hmm, Not sure I'd like the idea of taking Shadow Form. If I put it on then didn't manage to run far enough away or shake off the mobs my health would be reduces to about 44 HP and..."I be PWND!"

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The problem now is slightly academic also. I have explored the area I needed to get to...I took Evilsod's advice and when I got half way up Snake Dance with henchies I just decided to go all the way...I would have regretted it in the end! Fingers crossed I never need to go there again. I did always wonder about elementalist runners and if it was possible so I may well use that E/R build at some other point. Thanks very much!

Evilsod · Oct 19, 2006, 01:42 PM // 13:42

I tried looking through my old screenshots... Found a screenshot with the build i used for my mesmer and necro runner but i don't seem to have bothered taking ones for my ele. It wasn't my build anyway and it was a pretty damn easy run so i don't think i bothered. Think it might've been

Mist Form
Armour of Mist
Kinetic Armour
Aura of Restoration (cover for Kinetic vs Avicara Guiles)
Balanced Stance
Armour of Frost
Healing Signet
Swirling Aura

Not sure about the last 3. But hexes were never really a problem, eles can throw up that much armour you can walk through it with barely a scratch.

If you didn't have to put effort into your Cartographer title then it wouldn't be as good. I had to do THK using henchman about 4 times before i finally got all of the end.

Cebe · Oct 19, 2006, 02:00 PM // 14:00

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

If you didn't have to put effort into your Cartographer title then it wouldn't be as good. I had to do THK using henchman about 4 times before i finally got all of the end.

LOL - yes, I'm saving that little treat for near the end! I wondered if the bonus was henchable...? Has anyone managed this? I thought maybe if I kept all the henchmen around the King instead of trying to guard the two gates it might work...but tbh I'm not sure. You're right though, I also think hench is the only way to explore that.

I tried asking a party I went with recently if they minded if I explored after we completed the objectives and they just said "umm, no, we don't care about that".

Hyprodimus Prime · Oct 19, 2006, 03:27 PM // 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evilsod

I tried looking through my old screenshots... Found a screenshot with the build i used for my mesmer and necro runner but i don't seem to have bothered taking ones for my ele. It wasn't my build anyway and it was a pretty damn easy run so i don't think i bothered. Think it might've been

Mist Form
Armour of Mist
Kinetic Armour
Aura of Restoration (cover for Kinetic vs Avicara Guiles)
Balanced Stance
Armour of Frost
Healing Signet
Swirling Aura

Not sure about the last 3. But hexes were never really a problem, eles can throw up that much armour you can walk through it with barely a scratch.

If you didn't have to put effort into your Cartographer title then it wouldn't be as good. I had to do THK using henchman about 4 times before i finally got all of the end.

Im sure that eles and monks can "drok WALK" but what about slowdowns? There is no hex removal.
Im not sure, but, you might want to try GoR with ward of stability. Just throwing something out there. I doubt it would work, but that frees up your secondary for hex removal.
If you just want the title, go with guildies and fight.

Karalin Taucher · Oct 19, 2006, 05:16 PM // 17:16

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

LOL - yes, I'm saving that little treat for near the end! I wondered if the bonus was henchable...? Has anyone managed this? I thought maybe if I kept all the henchmen around the King instead of trying to guard the two gates it might work...but tbh I'm not sure. You're right though, I also think hench is the only way to explore that.

I tried asking a party I went with recently if they minded if I explored after we completed the objectives and they just said "umm, no, we don't care about that".

Yes it's possible, I've done THK bonus as an E/Mo with henchies. Stand with the King, fight bosses last in each mob, consider taking Heal Party, and good luck!

Also, try doing it with Guildies, who won't mind hanging around while you map. Any guildies worth their salt won't, anyway.

Cebe · Oct 20, 2006, 07:55 AM // 07:55

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Originally Posted by Karalin Taucher

Yes it's possible, I've done THK bonus as an E/Mo with henchies. Stand with the King, fight bosses last in each mob, consider taking Heal Party, and good luck!

Also, try doing it with Guildies, who won't mind hanging around while you map. Any guildies worth their salt won't, anyway.

Thank you, it is encouraging to know that someone else has completed this with henchies also. Luckily my brother playes a very good monk who will, no doubt, be infinitely better than Alesia! So I'll be recruiting him (not that he knows it yet).

Luciora · Oct 20, 2006, 07:58 AM // 07:58

Yeah it's not too difficult with the henchies, just don't stray too far from the king! I did everything just fine up to the last 2 groups, I walked a little too far from the king, the king got aggro and the monks were healing the team before the king and he died

So what you do is : CAMP THE KING, make sure that he does not move down from his perch and you will be fine

Saraphim · Oct 20, 2006, 11:45 AM // 11:45

Yeh, camping the King works wonders with henchies. Just make sure you keep an eye on him though, the little git does like to get up now and again.

I wish I'd thought of mapping THK when doing it, me and my partner need to go back and do that again.

Free Wind · Oct 24, 2006, 07:53 AM // 07:53

Doing THK with henchmen is actually easier when you do take bonus - you just camp the king and watch the show where mobs downstairs fight each other (Bonus-spawn Jades kill most of the incoming Giants and Mantle for you)

Done it many times with henchmen for my Warrior, Monk and Ranger (Ele will be the next one).