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SpitfireIXA · Nov 21, 2006, 02:52 AM // 02:52

Here's the build I've been using forever, it works like wonders. Imade like 50k on drok runs this month

E/A

1: Ether Prodigy (Lotza energy)
2: Shadow Refuge (For regens)
3: Armor of Earth (armor

)
4: Kinetic Armor (mor armor)
5: Windborne Speed (zpeed)
6: Storm Djinn's Haste (zpeed)
7: Conjure Flame (incase I have 2 fight a imp)
8: Rez Sig (for runnees)

Hyprodimus Prime · Nov 21, 2006, 03:16 AM // 03:16

How do you get rid of hexes and not get KD? I suspect that would be very slow is it not?
And Why_Me, are you going to/have you posted your build on Guild Wiki? Oh and acording to ensign's calculator, and if you have stoneflesh aura in place of armor of earth, damage up to 140 will not hurt u at all (with your build). Anything that gets past will be healed by your 10 regen. COnviction and mysitc regen =18 regen, burning is -7, so you have a constant +11 regen capped at 10. very nice. Yours sounds so much simpler to use.

SpitfireIXA · Nov 21, 2006, 05:09 AM // 05:09

I was joking: here's why it should be obvious:

1: Ether Prodigy hurts you for energy you have leftover after it ends...do you know how much pain that would be with how little you use? XD

2: SHADOW REFUGE!??! For regen? Lol...nuff said.

3: Armor of Earth, speed debuff of about 20%. GG xD

5&6: Using two speed skills simultaneously? Lol.

7: Conjure Flame for fighting things! Yes! A musthave for runnerz!

8: Rez Sig!? GG.

Plus I'm using about 5 attributes there XD

Hyprodimus Prime · Nov 21, 2006, 05:18 AM // 05:18

Thats nice Spitfire....

Actually I realise Why_Me's is much easier to use. Scrap the one I posted.
Hows this for the final Ele runner?

Hell's Forge Runner:

Elementalist/Dervish
Level: 20

Energy Storage: 12 (9+3)
Fire Magic: 10 (9+1)
Earth Magic: 13 (10+3)
Earth Prayers: 8
Wind Prayers: 3

- Burning Speed (Fire Magic)
- Pious Restoration (Wind Prayers)
- Ether Renewal [Elite] (Energy Storage)
- Conviction (Earth Prayers)
- Fleeting Stability (Earth Prayers)
- Stoneflesh Aura (Earth Magic)
- Mystic Regeneration (Earth Prayers)
- Kinetic Armor (Earth Magic)

Its got 81 energy, 420 health, using Rago's, can take 140 damage hits without taking anything, 11 regen...etc etc. What do you call your build?

Why_Me · Nov 21, 2006, 12:29 PM // 12:29

Don't use stoneflesh, 2 second casting time, only lasts for 18 seconds, way too much time casting.
Don't use kinetic armor with pious renewal, as stated before, kinetic's recharge is too long to afford stripping it. Replace with armor of earth.
Armor of earth's speed debuff is fine when used with burning speed, BS (lol, love the acronym

) counters it and still leaves you with a higher speed than most warrior runners. You may cringe when you see it on paper, but it actually works quite well.
The reason burning speed's energy is ok is
-You can attune to it
-It will always be on the top and you can afford stripping it
-No recharge, meaning while under ether renewal you can just spam it, gaining loads of energy and health.
Gonna edit wiki page now for a working build.

Xpl0iter · Nov 21, 2006, 03:43 PM // 15:43

i wonder how it will work through the very first tunnel, and as that seems to be the major issue, and how about the area just before the portal? i am gonna try this when i get to home

Hyprodimus Prime · Nov 21, 2006, 04:25 PM // 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why_Me

Don't use stoneflesh, 2 second casting time, only lasts for 18 seconds, way too much time casting.
Don't use kinetic armor with pious renewal, as stated before, kinetic's recharge is too long to afford stripping it. Replace with armor of earth.
Armor of earth's speed debuff is fine when used with burning speed, BS (lol, love the acronym

) counters it and still leaves you with a higher speed than most warrior runners. You may cringe when you see it on paper, but it actually works quite well.
The reason burning speed's energy is ok is
-You can attune to it
-It will always be on the top and you can afford stripping it
-No recharge, meaning while under ether renewal you can just spam it, gaining loads of energy and health.
Gonna edit wiki page now for a working build.

Oh I see. Did you want to call is something else? I dont want to force, "Enchanted Forge runner" on you. If you want just start a new one with whatever name u like and let the mod(skuld

) take my old one out. Up to you.

Francis Crawford · Nov 21, 2006, 08:42 PM // 20:42

I hesitate to call any build with Ether Renewal and Kinetic Armor "running". "Strolling" is more like it, what with the pauses every few seconds to cast something.

Hyprodimus Prime · Nov 22, 2006, 12:12 AM // 00:12

Sprinting?

Evilsod · Nov 22, 2006, 01:37 AM // 01:37

Er... i hate to break up this party but...

Your about 7 or 8 months too frigging late. I don't remember who posted the original build but it was done using only Prophecies skills.

Oh and you'd be surprised how useful Kinetic Armour is when it comes to getting past the first Wurm spawn w/ AoR to cover it.

I was intending to post pictures... but i don't seem to have bothered taking any, just my Mes and Necro running it. Note to self: Get round to doing it on Dervish/Paragon/Ritualist/Monk

Hyprodimus Prime · Nov 22, 2006, 03:49 AM // 03:49

How can eles do that without anti KD and hex removals? I think almost any proffesion can tank their way through, but thats not called running.

Francis Crawford · Nov 22, 2006, 07:10 AM // 07:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyprodimus Prime

Sprinting?

More like strolling in a leisurely manner, with constant pauses to appreciate the native wildlife.

Xpl0iter · Nov 22, 2006, 09:49 AM // 09:49

Evilsod, there is a difference though.
That skill bar was based on 7 months old droks running situation.
It does make a huge difference now. Spike is way too cordinated.

By the way Hypro, no it was running, not tanking. i don't recall that build using anything which slowed it down.

Francis, i dont see how casting spells which might take u 3 seconds every 20 seconds or so on an average, and using burning speed every 5 sec which takes no time to cast even when it is a spell, strolling. It is fine by my calculations, specially when armour of earth is used, your speed is reduced by 19%
i don't think burning speed minds it by much, On par, u r continiously running with the similar speed buff. Specially, compare it to when u make it to snake dance, do u even think u need to bother ur self with stopping at any point with the threat of knockdowns? Not really. ur maintained fleeting stability, and keeping B-Speed up. DO entire run non stop. Energy seems not much of an issue, even if you get 7 seconds of ether renewal, use it to fill ur bar up. with 4-5 enchantment + attunement, burning speed gives u back 8-11 energy per cast (correct me if i am wrong though), not to mention the health boost of 17 per enchantment on you. I am not even counting Aura of Rest here. Armour is better than warrior for that case. I do think i would prefer to use an axe with 20% mod and a shield for -2 while enchanted though. *shrugs*

Hmm, i just wondered, with that FFS 20% mod and any offhand that might be able to HC on Ether Renewal would be good. Just like good ol Spell breaker ( with lesser duration ofcourse )

Darkest Elementalist.

Ozric · Nov 22, 2006, 08:41 PM // 20:41

I'd like to watch one or both of you guys try this. I gave it a shot and spent far more time recasting my enchants than actually running. Best I could do was get to the cave, and even that wasn't pretty.

I'll attribute it to me not being familiar with Dervish skills at all and not ever having made a runner, though I'm familiar with the map all the way through.

Yell at me in game if you've got the room, again I'd love to see it done.

Dr Strangelove · Nov 22, 2006, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Would you charge by the hour for runs with this build?

Evilsod · Nov 22, 2006, 09:21 PM // 21:21

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Originally Posted by Hyprodimus Prime

How can eles do that without anti KD and hex removals? I think almost any proffesion can tank their way through, but thats not called running.

Getting from A to B without killing things or using speed boost skills is called running whether you like it or not.

Quote:

Would you charge by the hour for runs with this build?

Whats your point? Its to prove the ele can still run to Droknars from Beacons. Not to provide competition for every other wammo who thinks they're leet. Its a personal accomplishment, was there any point me successfully running my nec to droks solo? No, but at least i proved it could be done.

And yes i'd forgotten about the AI been screwed with.

Kelly G · Nov 23, 2006, 02:09 AM // 02:09

This looks interesting and fun to try....question....I have a Tyrian Ele....can I go over to Nightfall with that character and switch secondary to Dervish...and if so, how and where do I go to do that. Thanks!

Why_Me · Nov 23, 2006, 03:10 AM // 03:10

If you have nightfall, then you go to great temple of balthazzar and talk to the profession changer.

Xpl0iter · Nov 24, 2006, 06:01 AM // 06:01

by the way, how many people think dual ele should run to make better chances for finishing that run?
If it is about making money, rising demand doesn't hurt 2 dualing eles.

Master Righteous · Nov 25, 2006, 05:05 AM // 05:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xpl0iter

..... burning speed gives u back 8-11 energy per cast (correct me if i am wrong though), .....
Darkest Elementalist.

Wouldn't that be reclaim of 4 energy with attunement?

S-Patrick