Curse

Legendary Shiz · Nov 12, 2006, 02:09 AM // 02:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

I'd like to see someone consistantly counter a 1 second casting spell. (and since any Ele with a clue will be using a 20/20 set with Searing Flames, that's often less.).

Anyways, the best way to fix Searing Flames would be to increase it to a 2 second cast. That would be fair.

LOLOL.

You're kidding right?

/laugh

Don't touch Searing, it's fine. I personally have ran it like once and found it insanely boring. However it actually makes the ele class useful in gvg outside of flag runner. And omg eles can do damage now too.

Shadis · Nov 12, 2006, 02:14 AM // 02:14

Elementalists can do damage now? Wow... who would've thought THE damage dealing class would actually be used to do damage? I thought they just looked pretty and ran flags. Silly me.

Kidney Licker · Nov 12, 2006, 02:19 AM // 02:19

Was gonna say more but meh, Nightfall's only been out 2 weeks. All for a reduction in the damage, heck even 50 might be too much, or an increase in the recharge say 3-5 secs.

It's a bit overpowering in random arenas, sure who cares about those but they're still a part of the game.

Spader · Nov 12, 2006, 02:31 AM // 02:31

Isn't there a mesmer skill that knocks out all related spells of a caster and its allyies? team that with a migrane and you going to knock out some major damage.

I'm fairly certain I mentioned that searing flames would be a vaible elite when HoH went down to 6 and people were complaining about that.

Y.T. · Nov 12, 2006, 02:58 AM // 02:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

I'd like to see someone consistantly counter a 1 second casting spell. (and since any Ele with a clue will be using a 20/20 set with Searing Flames, that's often less.).

Anyways, the best way to fix Searing Flames would be to increase it to a 2 second cast. That would be fair.

lol we alrdy have migraine for that.... however if u're playing iway most of the time u might miss this elite

eles were supposed to do some damage, and they're doing it finally, and its quite intersting to see some fire builds again, it might be the anet's way to counter iway, vimway and touchers....

i mean look at this - class thats supposed to do the biggest damage in the game (and to die 1st) finally does some damage be4 dieing.... blindbots with healparty got some power back.... time to cheer up and paly ur ele again

G-Humps · Nov 12, 2006, 03:12 AM // 03:12

it definintly is strong.. but what does Anet expect? Im sure this will get nerfed but, dont u think balance builds vs balance builds all the time would be boring???

Tozen · Nov 12, 2006, 03:18 AM // 03:18

I was burned by this build a few times, and then I learned how to counter it.

It's legit, and I don't think that it's unbalanced. People seem to think that popularity is a reflection of balance, and it really ISN'T. (At least I have never seen a popular build that I couldn't easily beat with the proper counters)

EDIT: Just so you can see where I'm coming from though, my primary professions are assassin, ritualist, and mesmer

MegaMouse · Nov 12, 2006, 03:18 AM // 03:18

Finaly we Elementalists can hold our own against almost anyone, and yall want to nerf them again. SHAME ON YALL, Elementalists have the weakest armor and personaly I am tired of running, let someone else run from me for a change.

Mega Mouse

Taurucis · Nov 12, 2006, 04:03 AM // 04:03

Couple tips from me on how to disrupt a starburst or searing flames ele.

You need to look for who they're targeting, if you watch their movement for a while you'll be able to pick it up (it takes practice though)

What a lot of people like to do is hammer off their spell when they get in range, so when you see them get in range of what they're after, randomly shoot off an interrupt. Mesmer interrupts work best, but it's possible with ranger skills (I believe I interrupted a glyph of sacrifice meteor shower with distracting shot, not sure though)

Starburst is a little easier than searing flames. You can watch them running up to their target and (just like the touch ranger) shoot off their touch skills. I find that Ele's try to spit out their spells faster than touchers will spam their touch skills because of armor issues.

It's harder to interrupt an ele going after someone other than you though, especially when your team is mobbed up. Asking your mates to spread out a little usually doesn't work.

My two cents... enjoy. Don't flame me please

arcanemacabre · Nov 12, 2006, 04:21 AM // 04:21

Oh yeah, I don't PvP much, but this weekend, I had to. So basically, I'm a noob, but I'm pretty decent with my RestoRit. So one of the best times I had was with a group with two Eles and an AFKer. We actually won twice, and the third battle went on extremely long. I was amazed.

I wouldn't say they were overpowered, but they were definately holding their own against some decent (but unlucky combination) teams. I'd rather Searing Flames not be touched, I mean it's 15 Energy, only an Ele can use it well.

Alleji · Nov 12, 2006, 04:30 AM // 04:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y.T.

eles were supposed to do some damage, and they're doing it finally, and its quite intersting to see some fire builds again, [b]it might be the anet's way to counter iway, vimway and touchers....[/i]

Makes perfect sense. Counter a dead build, a dead build that sucked in the first place, and a scrub build that never made an impact outside of RA and AvA.

And in RA, a toucher will most likely own an ele 1v1... 115 armor vs fire much?

TLLOTS · Nov 12, 2006, 04:39 AM // 04:39

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Originally Posted by makosi

Yeah that's a good point with the enchantment removal, diversion and interrupts but the ele almost always uses Glyph of Sacrifice + Meteor Shower on threats so i suppose its a case of who gets to who first.

Please tell me you're kidding. You need to be half asleep to get caught in Meteor Shower.

As for Searing Flames, it's nice that an Elementalist can deal damage, but the typical Searing Flames build is terribly inflexible so it really needs to do a lot of damage to pay off. That means it has to be hitting at least two people frequently to get reasonable mileage out of it, so the easiest counter to it is just careful positioning. If you bunch up against an opponent using strong AoE spells then you deserve to lose.

Rera · Nov 12, 2006, 05:05 AM // 05:05

I LOL'd.

Searing is going to be nerfed eventually simply because of all the people who just can't be bothered to think or play better, and therefore just scream for nerfs all day long. It doesn't need a nerf, but it's going to be nerfed anyway and then we'll be back to eles being flag runners and eprod party spammers.

So, all of you eles better get in your fun now.

Hyper Cutter · Nov 12, 2006, 05:41 AM // 05:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadis

Elementalists can do damage now? Wow... who would've thought THE damage dealing class would actually be used to do damage? I thought they just looked pretty and ran flags. Silly me.

What they said.

Zinger314 · Nov 12, 2006, 05:44 AM // 05:44

Point of comment: Why have I been the only one to combine Searing Flame with "They're on Fire?" Do people hate Paragons or something?

"They're on Fire!" will be the reason that Searing Flames gets nerfed. Count on it.

DreadZero · Nov 12, 2006, 05:55 AM // 05:55

Searing flames is not overpowered. Eles are now actually useful damage dealers beacause of it. If your having problems, remember, this newfound importance is also the source of they're biggest weakness: overconfidence.

Living Ghost · Nov 12, 2006, 06:06 AM // 06:06

Wow...This is sad.

As some one else said, why not just make everything +10 dmg and 10 healing.

Really, now that nukers are nuking (as some one else said), there is an outcry?

Carth` · Nov 12, 2006, 06:08 AM // 06:08

I thought elementalists had the same armour as all casters: 60AL, with possible conditional bonuses (+AL while something), or a bonus vs one element.

arcanemacabre · Nov 12, 2006, 06:17 AM // 06:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

Point of comment: Why have I been the only one to combine Searing Flame with "They're on Fire?" Do people hate Paragons or something?

"They're on Fire!" will be the reason that Searing Flames gets nerfed. Count on it.

Oh no - I read your original post - and took it to heart!

Thanks, Zinger. But also: curse you, Zinger, if they nerf it because of that!

Saphrium · Nov 12, 2006, 06:40 AM // 06:40

wait a minute, why nerf distortion on mesmer then? since you can bring counters like wild blow? hell, why nerf anything, since blackout is a counter to everything?