Curse

Neriandal Freit · Feb 13, 2007, 01:48 AM // 01:48

I've grown terribly old of using Fire on my elementalist and it's nice to see people are wanting to use and involve the other three elements more often these days.

The only water build I could post has basically been posted, some Hexes and Feast of Corruption, our favorite Water elite

bhavv · Feb 13, 2007, 06:51 PM // 18:51

Edit, nvm, cant take 2 elites lol.

dark582 · Feb 13, 2007, 09:52 PM // 21:52

well, i decided to not post what i was going to originally because it was a flame and i try not to convey my messages like that. but here is a build i have been having fun with in AB.

water trident {E}
steam (
icy prism
glyph of lesser energy
vapor blade
freezing gust
aura of restoration (cover enchant)
water atonement

Cebe · Feb 14, 2007, 11:29 AM // 11:29

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Edit, nvm, cant take 2 elites lol.

I find it unfair that eles can't take two elites when wammos can... Echo and Healing Signet. And they get to take an elite outwith their Primary or Secondary Professions!! >.<

Neriandal Freit · Feb 14, 2007, 10:01 PM // 22:01

What do you mean Celest? How can Wammo's take two elites? Healing Signet isn't an elite, Echo is.

Now mind you there is a great, and very unused Mesmer skill the copies the elite from Target Ally and lets you use it. It's a shame people don't coordinate their abilities more often to put this skill into grand use, for it could be devastating with a Elementalist using and commanding two elites.

bhavv · Feb 14, 2007, 11:56 PM // 23:56

Celest was making a joke about the good old wammo build.

I want to replace Vapor blade for FoC.

Soul Barbs > Elemental Flame > Shatterstone > FoC > Steam.

Lol if that could ever be possible.

yaxattax · Feb 18, 2007, 08:10 PM // 20:10

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Celest was making a joke about the good old wammo build.

I want to replace Vapor blade for FoC.

Soul Barbs > Elemental Flame > Shatterstone > FoC > Steam.

Lol if that could ever be possible.

Fire, water & curses .. so yes its possible but you'd have little to no Estorage :P so it would be a one shot skillbar

Sir Tificate · Feb 18, 2007, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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Originally Posted by yaxattax

Fire, water & curses .. so yes its possible but you'd have little to no Estorage :P so it would be a one shot skillbar

Actually, it has 2 elites, FoC and Shatterstone.

Stormlord Alex · Feb 18, 2007, 08:34 PM // 20:34

'little to no e-storage' - I can run *4* Energy Storage ok - it's all in the energy management, 15 energy Storage is just as useless as 4 if you blast it all away in 5 seconds.

Grammar · Feb 18, 2007, 09:05 PM // 21:05

Yeah, high e-storage is not really that important, even in PvE.
IMO, this allows for tinkering with multi-element builds and such.

My Ele is running 11 e-storage with the PvE build I'm using at the moment (see nuking thread), and even that is a little bit overkill to be honest with you.
I can see running 6 to 8 e-storage in a well-made build and being just fine.

yaxattax · Feb 18, 2007, 09:33 PM // 21:33

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Originally Posted by Sir Tificate

Actually, it has 2 elites, FoC and Shatterstone.

So it does. I'd suggest arcane mimicry but then you'd not have access to the curses attribute nor the skills. ^^

dgb · Feb 19, 2007, 01:32 AM // 01:32

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Originally Posted by yaxattax

Fire, water & curses .. so yes its possible but you'd have little to no Estorage :P so it would be a one shot skillbar

E-storage if you're not running a skill out of it is utterly shit.

Coloneh · Feb 19, 2007, 03:14 AM // 03:14

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Originally Posted by dgb

E-storage if you're not running a skill out of it is utterly shit.

never played an ele before eh?

Katari · Feb 19, 2007, 05:37 AM // 05:37

No matter the class, E-Management >>> Max Energy.

Unless you're using Elemental Atunement, Ether Prodigy, or Mind spells, a high energy storage isn't vital. It is a decent place to drop leftover points, and even if you are using those mentioned spells, 11 is a perfectly sufficient amount.

8-11 is a fine amount for a multi-attribute ele. 13 is pretty much a solid max for a single-attribute ele, since it just isn't worth the loss of HP to go any higher.

dgb · Feb 19, 2007, 06:17 AM // 06:17

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

never played an ele before eh?

I have 80 energy!!! Woot, now it takes my energy negative build an EXTRA 30 SECONDS TO RUN OUT OF ENERGY, but takes an extra 30s to gain it back.

Maybe if people didn't run sucky negative energy return builds then you wouldn't need it. It's a crutch for morons who ping "My energy is 3 of 82!!!" incessantly at the end of every battle and insist you wait a minute for them to regen. If it's supporting some of hte more powerful skills in it, then a decent spec is good. If it's not, ask yourself why exactly do I need a high max energy.

Dr Strangelove · Feb 19, 2007, 07:15 AM // 07:15

I really don't get whe whole love affair between water eles and FoC. There really are some awesome water elites out there, as well as energy management elites in the ele tree. True, you can do AoE damage with a water guy. Yay. However, a fire, earth, or even an invoke lightning spiker guy are going to be better at it. If you really, really love FoC, why aren't you running a necro that can max it out? It's not as if necros don't have some sexy AoE hexes, or couldn't run N/E for a superior effect if they *really* thought it was a good idea.

Oh, and to jump on the bandwagon, energy storage is where you throw your spare points. Sacrificing other attributes, or, god forbid, -75 health is just stupid stupid stupid.

Ensign · Feb 19, 2007, 09:26 AM // 09:26

I think Energy Storage is ok, I don't think I've ever wanted to run as little as 3-4 Energy Storage. There are a couple of good reasons, in my mind, to run a decent (6-8) points in Energy Storage even with no other benefit. First, because you probably are casting some spendy skills, and do want some burst capability, and you're not going to get that with a really low energy capacity. You certainly don't need 80 max energy for that, but running with 40 max energy is going to be rather limiting when you're casting a bunch of 15, let alone 25 energy spells. The other side of it is the 'armor equivilency' of Energy Storage. Basically: trading a focus for a shield costs you 12 max energy. 4 points of Energy Storage gives you 12 max energy, hence, if I take 4 points of Energy Storage and use a shield I still have focus-levels of max energy. I think it's worth taking a few more points of Energy Storage to be able to run around with my shield out all the time, without having to think about energy capacity hurting my ability to cast big spells.

That's not a reason to run 13 Energy Storage, but it's a perfectly valid reason to spec it like an attribute that matters, with 6-8 points even with no benefitting skills.

Peace,
-CxE

alarico511 · Feb 20, 2007, 01:23 AM // 01:23

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'little to no e-storage' - I can run *4* Energy Storage ok - it's all in the energy management, 15 energy Storage is just as useless as 4 if you blast it all away in 5 seconds.

Not true at all dude.

Cebe · Feb 20, 2007, 08:50 AM // 08:50

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Originally Posted by Neriandal Freit

What do you mean Celest? How can Wammo's take two elites? Healing Signet isn't an elite, Echo is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhavv

Celest was making a joke about the good old wammo build.

I was indeed...Having never played a wammo I'm not 100% sure...but I thought Healing Signet was an elite from a really hard boss that you had to echo Mending at least 3 times to kill...

jesh · Feb 20, 2007, 08:50 AM // 08:50

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

In short, I still class my Ele as the "Damage Dealer" and, tests and theoretical figures are all well and good, but I am YET to see an instance when most other classes have out-damaged my Ele.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...4&postcount=42

Feel free to party my assassin anytime if you ever feel like having all your spells find invalid targets.