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Skipper · Jul 06, 2008, 09:09 AM // 09:09

I heard that if you have only Factions campaign and you play as an elementalist its better to use earth magic than fire magic. Is it correct and can you post some ele factions only farming builds. Thanks

Icy The Mage · Jul 06, 2008, 09:28 AM // 09:28

http://www.PvXwiki.com/

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P.s. yw

acerbity · Jul 07, 2008, 01:28 AM // 01:28

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Originally Posted by IcyFiftyFive

http://www.PvXwiki.com/

^use it, enjoy it, cherish it :P

P.s. yw

Really, did you even read the post? 95% of the builds on pvx are for people with more than one campaign.

Well, you shouldn't be afraid to mix between attributes (as long as its not too much), but yea, factions elementalists don't really have very many fire magic skills worth using. The good thing about earth magic is the utility, it doesn't just cause damage but also helps your team in several other ways, [churning earth] and [dragon's stomp] are useful by causing knock downs, [unsteady ground] is also a decent elite. [ward against melee] is a very useful skill and if you're running an earth build you should really consider taking it, its great help to the team.

However, you need to consider the long recharge in the more powerful earth spells, this is where fire spells are useful, ie. [fireball] and [lava arrows], because they have a low recharge and can be cast in between the longer-recharging skills. [stoning] is also a nice skill, but it has quite a high energy cost.

You also need to consider energy management, [glyph of lesser energy] and attunement skills are usually sufficient.

Hope i've helped.

horseradish · Jul 07, 2008, 02:03 AM // 02:03

With a fire build, it's best to invest in an attribute line other than fire as well, since bringing more than 2 or 3 damage skills is redundant. You can bring [Ward Against Melee] [Aegis] [Heal Party] along with doing nice damage.

Unfortunately, a lot of the better fire magic skills are in Prophecies and Nightfall.

If you have Factions only, I'd suggest Earth magic. There are plenty of powerful Earth skills that are Core and Factions only.

Here's a good Earth skill bar.

[Enfeebling Blood][Stoning][Glowstone][Eruption][Ward Against melee][Earth Attunement][Unsteady Ground][empty]

Tons of melee hate and knockdowns. It's very fun.

Keekles · Jul 07, 2008, 02:11 AM // 02:11

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Originally Posted by horseradish

With a fire build, it's best to invest in an attribute line other than fire as well, since bringing more than 2 or 3 damage skills is redundant. You can bring [Ward Against Melee] [Aegis] [Heal Party] along with doing nice damage.

Unfortunately, a lot of the better fire magic skills are in Prophecies and Nightfall.

If you have Factions only, I'd suggest Earth magic. There are plenty of powerful Earth skills that are Core and Factions only.

Here's a good Earth skill bar.

[Enfeebling Blood][Stoning][Glowstone][Eruption][Ward Against melee][Earth Attunement][Unsteady Ground][empty]

Tons of melee hate and knockdowns. It's very fun.

Your bar is a bad example of Core and Factions only. [glowstone] is nightfall, [eruption] is prophecies.

Earth is good still, though if I was restricted to Factions only, I would probably go air and run dual attune along with [ward against melee].

I'm not too sure on what I'd run factions only with an earth ele, possibly mostly wards (though h/h fail horribly at staying in the wards), and kd spam.

Damian979 · Jul 09, 2008, 02:57 PM // 14:57

If you really don't want to buy another campaign, I would consider using multiple element builds with complimentary skills. Factions alone doesn't offer a whole lot of skills for any one attribute.

As far as farming builds there aren't many options with just factions/core skills. [Stone striker] , [Stoneflesh Aura] , and [Glyph of Swiftness] are the ones most used in farming builds.

Steps_Descending · Jul 09, 2008, 03:33 PM // 15:33

Should you want, Faction also has many of the key Water magic skills. Thinking of Vapor blade, Shatterstone, maelstrom, deep freeze... Most of it is designed for a spike build, which does moderately well in faction PvE, tough you have some hex synergy with assassin (Assass's promise).

EDIT : Looking into it, there is also some not so bad combo for water/air hybrid.

horseradish · Jul 09, 2008, 06:18 PM // 18:18

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Originally Posted by Keekles

Your bar is a bad example of Core and Factions only. [glowstone] is nightfall, [eruption] is prophecies.

oh shit. woops

Well, [Glyph of Lesser Energy] works instead of [Glowstone].

[Eruption] could be an optional slot. Great for [Pain Inverter] or a rez.

The fact that Factions has the most powerful earth elite skill would make me be an earth ele.

Stormlord Alex · Jul 09, 2008, 10:26 PM // 22:26

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Originally Posted by Ditto

Tomes have pretty much eliminated the dilema of having only one campaign. If you want to play a modern, effective bar - take the time and invest in some tomes (and gather some balth faction if you need to unlock the skills to learn them).

Doesn't matter - you cannot even unlock skills if you do not own the appropriate campaign.

acerbity · Jul 09, 2008, 10:26 PM // 22:26

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Originally Posted by Ditto

Tomes have pretty much eliminated the dilema of having only one campaign. If you want to play a modern, effective bar - take the time and invest in some tomes (and gather some balth faction if you need to unlock the skills to learn them). As for which element to choose, sometimes it's best to have the ability to play a few different ones, depending on the type of enemies you'll be fighting. GL

you do realise that if you only have 1 campaign you can only unlock the skills from that campaign, right?

Rhamia Darigaz · Jul 10, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

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Originally Posted by Ditto

Tomes have pretty much eliminated the dilema of having only one campaign. If you want to play a modern, effective bar - take the time and invest in some tomes (and gather some balth faction if you need to unlock the skills to learn them).

could this be any more wrong?

....

no. no it could not.

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Originally Posted by horseradish

[Eruption] could be an optional slot. Great for [Pain Inverter] or a rez.

The fact that Factions has the most powerful earth elite skill would make me be an earth ele.

well [pain inverter] is from gwen, so i doubt he'll be able to use that if he... you know... doesn't have gwen. and you already have an empty skill slot on the bar you posted, so eruption-->res sig still leaves a slot open.