Curse

Xicer · Sep 04, 2008, 07:15 PM // 19:15

Can someone give me a great build for an elementalist for PvE in EotN

thx

Squishy ftw · Sep 04, 2008, 07:27 PM // 19:27

[build prof=E/N earth=12+1+1 energy=8+1 curses=10][unsteady ground][churning earth][enfeebling blood][stoning][glowstone][ward against melee][glyph of lesser energy][earth attunement][/build]

That's what I like to run in eotn.

Ferret Deathsquad · Sep 04, 2008, 07:56 PM // 19:56

You could try using the terra tank build on www.pvxwiki.com under elementalist and check out some of the other build for elementalists.

Tyla · Sep 04, 2008, 08:03 PM // 20:03

Terra Tanks are bad outside of farming. Bunneh had the right idea, however I'd prefer to run Eruption over GoLE.

Shyft the Pyro · Sep 05, 2008, 05:47 AM // 05:47

[mind blast][finish him][you move like a dwarf][pain inverter]

Fill out the bar as you wish ([meteor shower], [mark of rodgort], [rodgort's invocation], etc.) and you're good to go.

I also hear [assassin's promise][finish him][ebon vanguard assassin support][pain inverter][glyph of sacrifice][meteor shower] is good, so... use it?

illidan009 · Sep 06, 2008, 10:15 PM // 22:15

That earth build with churning earth and unsteady ground works very well. I don't use the exact same build as that but it's quite similar.

draxynnic · Sep 08, 2008, 02:37 AM // 02:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro

[mind blast][finish him][you move like a dwarf][pain inverter]

Fill out the bar as you wish ([meteor shower], [mark of rodgort], [rodgort's invocation], etc.) and you're good to go.

I also hear [assassin's promise][finish him][ebon vanguard assassin support][pain inverter][glyph of sacrifice][meteor shower] is good, so... use it?

The OP is specifically considering EOTN, which I'm guessing means Destroyers. Ergo, anything Rodgort, especially the Mark, is a bad idea - they don't burn, and have high armour against fire so other sources of fire damage are less efficient unless you have Winter around.

Squishy's is probably a good template to work off, with Tyla's modification (or, at the very least, taking Eruption over Churning Earth if in Normal Mode) - it'll work pretty much everywhere, although another thing you might consider is a condition-spreading air elementalist - something like [air attunement][shell shock][enervating charge][blinding surge][shock arrow][lightning javelin][epidemic] (as one example - there are plenty of variants, and Enervating is easy to drop if you have a curses necro along) makes a good complement for a dazebot ranger for setting up the Mandragor Effect, and even better if you have space to replace Epidemic with a Mesmer (primary or secondary) on the side with Fevered Dreams or Extend Conditions.

Shyft the Pyro · Sep 08, 2008, 07:44 AM // 07:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by draxynnic

The OP is specifically considering EOTN, which I'm guessing means Destroyers. Ergo, anything Rodgort, especially the Mark, is a bad idea - they don't burn, and have high armour against fire so other sources of fire damage are less efficient unless you have Winter around.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xicer

Can someone give me a great build for an elementalist for PvE in EotN

The specifications are: A) PvE, B) GWEN. I see nothing further.

You know what happens when you assume? I point out what you've made of yourself

Quote:

Originally Posted by draxynnic

Squishy's is probably a good template to work off, with Tyla's modification (or, at the very least, taking Eruption over Churning Earth if in Normal Mode) - it'll work pretty much everywhere, although another thing you might consider is a condition-spreading air elementalist - something like [air attunement][shell shock][enervating charge][blinding surge][shock arrow][lightning javelin][epidemic] (as one example - there are plenty of variants, and Enervating is easy to drop if you have a curses necro along) makes a good complement for a dazebot ranger for setting up the Mandragor Effect, and even better if you have space to replace Epidemic with a Mesmer (primary or secondary) on the side with Fevered Dreams or Extend Conditions.

1) PvE is easy.

2) PvE is easier with PvE skills.

3) Spamming PvE skills as you please (especially the first three in my post) will get you through practically anything in GWEN NM.

4) Proper hero/henchman management takes care of the rest:

A) The curses necro hero should never leave your team. [spiteful spirit][reckless haste][barbs][enfeebling blood][weaken armor][foul feast][plague sending][signet of lost souls] or a similar build is simply too good to lose.

B) The MM (preferably with [epidemic], so he has something to do before there are corpses) should never leave your team outside of a corpse-starved area, and should be replaced with a tank if the need arises (which it won't, at least in NM).

C) Taking Herta (which you should be doing all the time) means never having to run an Earth build yourself.

D) Taking Mhenlo + Lina means you don't need to spend a hero spot on a healer. Only lose one of them for a PC monk, or if you feel confident your [ether renewal] monk build can replace one of them.

E) Taking Zho (which you should be doing all the time) means access to [broad head arrow] + [epidemic] without wasting a hero spot on a ranger.

F) Taking a Mesmer (either a hench or a hero) will greatly decrease the difficulty of everything.

Let's recap:

Hero 1 = MM (w/ Epidemic)
Hero 2 = SS (w/ conditions)
Hero 3 = mesmer (w/ interrupts)
Hench 1 = Herta (wards)
Hench 2 = Zho (Broadhead)
Hench 3 = Mhenlo (heals)
Hench 4 = Lina (prots)

Since the whole point of GWEN PvE (as evidenced by the focus built into the game by ANet) is on PvE skills, it does not matter what build you run. If you like monking, go for [ether renewal] spamming of monk skills. If you like tanking, go for [ursan blessing]. If you like support, bring anything you want - from [searing flames] + [they're on fire] (for nuking + protection) to [glyph of swiftness] + [pain inverter] (for more spammable PvE skills) to [ebon battle standard of honor] + [go for the eyes] (for even greater minion damage). If you like nuking, go with whatever fire or water or earth or even air build you want; just don't go exclusively for the utility of conditions while forgetting you're there for the damage.

<OT RANT>
I found NM GWEN easy enough with the above party setup. When I felt like it, I bonded the party and healed it with Infuse thanks to Ether Renewal, or ran AP nuke with PvE skills (AP + Finish Him is all you need, really, once the minions get going), or just Mind Blasted to trigger Mark of TROGDOR and power whatever PvE skills I felt like testing. I suppose what I mean to say is I found it easy because I at least tried; the OP could have done the same, looking into the dozens of builds available and testing them out to see what works best for him. The "gimme the best" mentality is not new on the internet, but it makes me sad that ANet's decision to include PvE skills in general and Ursan Blessing in particular (EDIT: combined with the introduction of skill templates) have effectively institutionalized such behavior for PvE, where the PvP rank discrimination and other forms of elitism were much less widespread than they are now. One needs only to look at the "speed clear" groups mustering for the Underworld and the Fissure of Woe to know what I mean.

</OT RANT>

draxynnic · Sep 08, 2008, 08:17 AM // 08:17

Given that fighting destroyers are involved in, let me see... nearly half of the missions of EOTN and pretty much exclusively in those they appear in except one, as well as featuring in a couple of quests, I think it's reasonable to at least give a warning about their immunity to burning, and associated resistance to fire, when proposing the use of burning-related skills like Mark of Rodgort.

I think it's also a fair assumption, childish games about what words are contained (which, for the record, also includes a 'u' in all the variations I've heard) that if the OP is asking specifically about EOTN, they probably already have a good fire build they've used elsewhere, are aware that that's not as effective against Destroyers, and are looking for an alternative.

While I quoted your entire post, I also didn't criticise your use of PvE skills... although while I'm here, I will point out that if the OP is just starting EOTN with their ele, they're not going to have those skills in the first place. For instance, you need to beat Magni to get Finish Him! in the first place, and the air template I put up is similar in concept to those recommended for the tournament, albeit without as much focus on self-preservation because, presumably, one isn't going to do the majority of the expansion solo.

Although, to run a few nitpicks: While it's true about EOTN Zho and hero rangers, I wouldn't put Epidemic on the MM. Instead, the MM gets things like Heal Area to provide more minion healing and Dwayna's Sorrow so your team gets healed if one dies. Of course, I'm more inclined, once again assuming that the OP isn't a complete newbie, that they have their own ideas about hero setups - which aren't likely to change much in EOTN, except possibly when it comes to dealing with things that don't burn.

And... Herta? She's not bad for a henchman build and when she's around I'll tend to use her so I can use the hero slot for something that the henchmen aren't so good for (Necros and Mesmers are good examples) but her build isn't perfect... and Earth has enough breadth that sometimes it can be worth bringing Herta for wards so a hero or PC earth ele has more space for something else.