Curse

Laylat · Nov 23, 2008, 06:47 AM // 06:47

I would like to share a build I've been using as an Ele and would appreciate constructive criticism.

[build prof=E/D earth=11+2 energy=6+1 scythe=12][Reaper's Sweep][Mystic Sweep][Crippling Sweep][Stone Striker][Armor of Earth][Aura of Holy Might (Kurzick)][Glyph of Lesser Energy][Asuran Scan][/build]

I'm using a Zealous Scythe of Enchanting.
Armour is Geomancer.

I don't have many PvE skills and don't plan on getting them till after I finish vanquishing, etc. I was also getting tired of Lightning Surge, Lightning Orb.

What led me to use a scythe with an Ele is the idea of having a fairly large energy pool to be able to use the above skills without worrying about energy.

However, I am finding the lack of an IAS and an IMS makes my damage output obviously not very good (which is why I have Crippling Sweep). I considered using Onslaught, but that would require me to invest points in Wind Prayers.

As for the actually attack skills, I considered using Radiant Scythe, but I really enjoy the attack + mystic sweep combo.

Once again, please give contructive criticism.

Thanks a lot!

Daft Shifty · Nov 23, 2008, 06:52 AM // 06:52

just... why?

-Lotus- · Nov 23, 2008, 07:16 AM // 07:16

make a dervish. eles are designed for midline-support and function best in that capacity.

Frozen Bacon · Nov 23, 2008, 07:51 AM // 07:51

If I saw an ele (or any caster) using a scythe, I'd curse him/her out and then rage quit.

Daisuko · Nov 23, 2008, 07:57 AM // 07:57

I'd say don't use it, but if you must... at least...

swap reaper's for wounding
swap crippling for radiant
swap glyph for zealous sweep
swap armor for kinetic armor

Would make the build a lot better, even if it's still baed.

daze · Nov 23, 2008, 08:09 AM // 08:09

i can see where it would kinda work. but with mysticism attrib buff and a zealous scythe, energy management should be the least of your worries on an actual derv.

If you want to take advantage of the deep energy pool of an ele though, i would get rid of [[crippling sweep] and put in [[radiant scythe].

[[gole] is not needed because most of your skills are cheap to cast. Id lose it for [[kinetic armor]

and [[wounding strike] FTW

with full geomancer insignias, [[armor of [email protected]], and [[kinetic [email protected]] at least you wont have to worry about being squishy. just make sure to keep up your enchantments.

and a derv could still run that build better and have no energy problems.
IMO the only classes that should be wielding scythes are dervs and sins.

Daisuko · Nov 23, 2008, 08:19 AM // 08:19

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Originally Posted by daze

If you want to take advantage of the deep energy pool of an ele though, i would get rid of [[crippling sweep] and put in [[radiant scythe].

Way to go, I just told him that a little while ago. :P

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Originally Posted by daze

[[gole] is not needed because most of your skills are cheap to cast. Id lose it for [[kinetic armor]

Again, another suggestion I already made, good job.

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Originally Posted by daze

with full geomancer insignias, [[armor of [email protected]], and [[kinetic [email protected]] at least you wont have to worry about being squishy. just make sure to keep up your enchantments.

Multiple armor sources can't stack past +25 armor, and have been this way for well over a year. Hence, he should take my suggestion and swap armor of earth for kinetic armor, and not take both. :P

daze · Nov 23, 2008, 08:20 AM // 08:20

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Originally Posted by Daisuko

Way to go, I just told him that a little while ago. :P

Again, another suggestion I already made, good job.

Multiple armor sources can't stack past +25 armor, and have been this way for well over a year. Hence, he should take my suggestion and swap armor of earth for kinetic armor, and not take both. :P

what he said. and when you said [[kinetic armor] for some reason i was thinking [[sliver armor].

zwei2stein · Nov 23, 2008, 08:27 AM // 08:27

What about ditching earth for some, any, other element and run conjure? Water for example gives you conjure as well as [[Armor of Frost]], [[Armor of Mist]] (IMS and armor buff!), [[Frigid Armor]] if you insist on armor boosts. lots of snares ...

you can get IAS/IMS from likes of [[Drunken Master]].

obsidian ectoplasm · Nov 23, 2008, 09:17 AM // 09:17

OMG THIS IS SIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCK!

( I'm only saying this because you have a cool Avatar lol"

other wise, this is kinda meh, abit lame and boring, sorry

but i'll give you credit for having a go

Laylat · Nov 23, 2008, 10:09 AM // 10:09

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Originally Posted by Daft Shifty

just... why?

Because I can.

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Originally Posted by -Lotus-

make a dervish. eles are designed for midline-support and function best in that capacity.

I did think about it. But I didn't want to go through the character creation process again. At least, not at this time. I just wanted something different, that's all.

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Originally Posted by Frozen Bacon

If I saw an ele (or any caster) using a scythe, I'd curse him/her out and then rage quit.

I'll save you the trouble and kick you

Daze and Daisuko who both mentioned Kinetic Armour, I can't cast a spell every 8/10 seconds.

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

What about ditching earth for some, any, other element and run conjure? Water for example gives you conjure as well as [[Armor of Frost]], [[Armor of Mist]] (IMS and armor buff!), [[Frigid Armor]] if you insist on armor boosts. lots of snares ...

you can get IAS/IMS from likes of [[Drunken Master]].

I may consider the water line. Thank you. I'm actually thinking of replacing Crippling Sweep with Drunken Master.

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Originally Posted by obsidian ectoplasm

you have a cool Avatar

Thanks

Daisuko · Nov 23, 2008, 11:00 AM // 11:00

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Originally Posted by Laylat

Daze and Daisuko who both mentioned Kinetic Armour, I can't cast a spell every 8/10 seconds.

Asuran scan is a spell. If you're not using it every 8/10 seconds then you should stop using this build altogether. Sure, it would go down outside of combat, but you could use air of superiority to get instant recharges. And even then, it should be mostly recharged by the time you're done fighting.

SmokingHotImolation · Nov 23, 2008, 11:41 AM // 11:41

The thing eles have that derv's dont, is Energi Storage. And becaues your build doesnt benefit from Energi Storage, its pointless. And why [stone striker]?

daze · Nov 23, 2008, 11:51 AM // 11:51

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Originally Posted by SmokingHotImolation

The thing eles have that derv's dont, is Energi Storage. And becaues your build doesnt benefit from Energi Storage, its pointless. And why [stone striker]?

I was wondering the same thing. [stone striker] without [mantra of earth] is kinda ???
the ONLY thing i can think of is maybe you are trying to get some use out of your geomancer insignias.

Brawn Over Brains · Nov 23, 2008, 12:23 PM // 12:23

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Originally Posted by daze

i can see where it would kinda work. but with mysticism attrib buff and a zealous scythe, energy management should be the least of your worries on an actual derv.

If you want to take advantage of the deep energy pool of an ele though, i would get rid of [[crippling sweep] and put in [[radiant scythe].

[[gole] is not needed because most of your skills are cheap to cast. Id lose it for [[kinetic armor]

and [[wounding strike] FTW

with full geomancer insignias, [[armor of [email protected]], and [[kinetic [email protected]] at least you wont have to worry about being squishy. just make sure to keep up your enchantments.

and a derv could still run that build better and have no energy problems.
IMO the only classes that should be wielding scythes are dervs and sins.

I agree, but sins and scyhtes takes away attack speed of daggers.

Laylat · Nov 23, 2008, 02:03 PM // 14:03

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Originally Posted by SmokingHotImolation

The thing eles have that derv's dont, is Energi Storage. And becaues your build doesnt benefit from Energi Storage, its pointless. And why [stone striker]?

I'm going to disagree. I have over 51 energy with GoLE being icing on the cake. Stone Striker is just for the Geomancer Armour and a cover enchantment; not absolutely necessary.

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Originally Posted by Daisuko

Asuran scan is a spell. If you're not using it every 8/10 seconds then you should stop using this build altogether. Sure, it would go down outside of combat, but you could use air of superiority to get instant recharges. And even then, it should be mostly recharged by the time you're done fighting.

My bad, I forgot it's an instant cast. I looked at the skill on guru and it was a two second cast which means I would use it barely in time to refresh kinetic.

My additional concern with kinetic is when it refreshes, it leaves it open for enchantment removal. This is why I stuck with Armour of Earth; it's less fragile.

Arcane Spark · Nov 23, 2008, 03:20 PM // 15:20

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Originally Posted by Daft Shifty

just... why?

quoted for truth

illidan009 · Nov 29, 2008, 02:24 AM // 02:24

To the people that say/ask omg why not stick to teh fire magiks !!!!!1!! :
People like to make creative builds, sure they may not the THE best, but this one seems quite workable and innovative. Of course, I wouldn't suggest taking this into DoA, Slavers, Urgoz/Kanaxai, UW/FoW... :P

MegaVolti · Nov 29, 2008, 01:16 PM // 13:16

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Originally Posted by illidan009

To the people that say/ask omg why not stick to teh fire magiks !!!!!1!! :
People like to make creative builds, sure they may not the THE best, but this one seems quite workable and innovative. Of course, I wouldn't suggest taking this into DoA, Slavers, Urgoz/Kanaxai, UW/FoW... :P

Fire magic is crap. Earth magic is win in PvE.

That build is bad, too. Which doesn't really matter as long as you are playing NM. If you have fun with it there, go have fun. You will be able to beat the game with almost anything in NM.
Just don't think you have an effective build

Windf0rce · Nov 30, 2008, 04:44 AM // 04:44

Nvm, misread the OP post.