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Nov 29, 2006, 09:41 AM // 09:41
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Forge Runner
Join Date: May 2005
Location: San Diego, CA
Guild: Penguin Village
Profession: Mo/
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Non-tank Dervish
Almost all I see hear are "tank" builds. If this was the warrior subforum, there would be a flame fest going on. Where are the builds with 16 scythe? We have people here that won't even use major runes. I'm just curious because I actually made a dervish for fun, and would like to play something a little different from a whammo.
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Nov 29, 2006, 01:37 PM // 13:37
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: SAW
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Nov 30, 2006, 05:42 AM // 05:42
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Forge Runner
Join Date: May 2005
Location: San Diego, CA
Guild: Penguin Village
Profession: Mo/
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Please, just because you CAN tank doesn't mean you should, especially with the highest damage weapon in the game.
I'm not trying to flame anyone here, I'm just asking for some ideas on a build that doesn't center around how much damage you can take, instead of deal. Last edited by jesh; Nov 30, 2006 at 05:51 AM // 05:51.. |
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Nov 30, 2006, 05:55 AM // 05:55
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: SAW
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have poor energy management and are simply outdamaged by even all the "tank" builds who cares if you can wack a single hit every 2.5 seconds at 40-80 dmg and sometimes hit up to 3 targets... IMO the Sycth is for the most part useless in the stronger Derv Builds... im sure there are some yet to be discovered... but they end up being like Hammer Wars with the armor and defence close to that of an Assassin... Enchants are what the Dervish excedes at... |
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Nov 30, 2006, 06:06 AM // 06:06
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Look into the Eye.
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Detroit, Mi
Guild: Oh No Not These Guys [uhoh]
Profession: Mo/
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LOL @ sinican. If you ever played PvP you'd realize how powerful the scythe is. Builds using all 4 avatars have been very successful, especially grenth. It's not uncommon for a dervish to hit a target 160+ in one hit, and can do that sort of damage on multiple targets at once, all while removing an enchantment (in the case of grenth.) If that's not something to be reckoned with, I'm not sure what is. The Dervish is the single most feared melee class in PvP right now, moreso than assassins and thumpers.
to the OP: for PvE consider what you'll be playing with and what you're trying to accomplish. If the build has a lot of offense already, run an Avatar of Melandru with wearying strike, for aoe deep wound. If you want a lot of straight up damage then consider balthazar or lyssa, and if you're going to be facing prot monks (lots of enchants) then bring grenth. Avatars are pretty much the way to go for high damage builds, but with some creativity there are other options. |
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Nov 30, 2006, 06:43 AM // 06:43
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: California, USA
Guild: Angel Sharks [AS] (RiP [KaiZ] T__T")
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Sinican, Please Uninstall game. This game has proved time and TIME again that every class can fulfill numerous roles and do just about anything. From dmg dealing to tanking, to group defense to group dmg buffing. etc etc etc. If you seriously think what you said has any merit, then i don't understand why you are playing Guild Wars. You already classify the Dervish in a certain way, but clearly are not talking from experience... And to the OP, actually the scythe is an incredibly deadly weapon and there ARE people who use builds with 16 scythe. I myself use 15-16 most of the time. The REASON why most people here are posting some version of a "tank" build is because it is the simplest route to take. Much like how the "Wammo" has been posted and reposted hundreds of times, the dervish tank is such a phenomenon. The Dervish has quite a lot self-heal, self protection spells that most people see it as its only role. I play a balanced dervish. i use 3-4 skills for self-buffing, healing, armor, or dmg buffers, then the rest i dedicate to maximizing my scythe dmg. I do a great amount of dmg in shorts amount of time, lots of which is AoE and if aggroed right, will hit 3 targets from scythe dmg. Depending on the build a person can get quite a high DPS, and i honestly believe can match or even outdamage an axe warrior. Build dependant of course, but either way like any class, dervishes can be VERY versatile. Oh, and maybe there aren't many posted "Scythe Builds" because they are SO effective that others don't wanna give away their builds. LoL.  But seriously, i don't truely know why people are so hung up with the dervish as being a tank... cheers! |
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Nov 30, 2006, 08:15 AM // 08:15
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things
Guild: [acid]members of the KAWS alliance
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I'm only hung up on tanking, because heart of fury provides all the DPS I need, I find myself OFTEN pressuring foes into death by simply hitting them hard and fast for 21 seconds then when that time ends watching them light up like a christmas tree.
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Nov 30, 2006, 08:28 AM // 08:28
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Forge Runner
Join Date: May 2005
Location: San Diego, CA
Guild: Penguin Village
Profession: Mo/
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Also from what I see, Wearying Strike seems to be the only non-elite way to inflict deep wound on a dervish, or did I miss something? If I didn't.... doh! All the warrior weapons get easy deep wound... *kicks can and sighs a deep breath* Ah well, I guess I can always plague touch it, right? @ Batou of Nine Uh oh, not the top-secret-build syndrome again..  Heehee. What scythe/damage skills do you normally take into your builds, guys? ::EDIT:: What about this for a little combo? More for PvE I would suppose. Wearying Strike Plague Touch Mystic Corruption Reap Impurities Zealous Renewal Last edited by jesh; Nov 30, 2006 at 08:31 AM // 08:31.. |
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Nov 30, 2006, 01:03 PM // 13:03
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Sep 2005
Guild: Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]
Profession: A/
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Reaper's sweep sucks, looks good but its really hard to use.
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Nov 30, 2006, 01:28 PM // 13:28
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: SAW
Profession: D/
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and was asking why all the builds that are posted are "tank" builds I gave an answer to his question... @botou of nine...please read what i was responding to with my post... the question the OP had was in regards to why there aren't many tanking builds... to both of you... if you read the OP, my origional post and then the response thereafter you will see why i answered the way i did.. I run a Dervish... I run a high preasure NON-Scyth Build... I created a thread with the build called "Amazing Dervish" because at the time i didn't have a name for it.. and still dont... you'll see buy reading that post that I am very Familiar with the Dervish Profession... as well as PvPing with it... My comments where in regards to "most" posted Melee builds for the dervish DO lack energy management and dmg... they do have some nice dmg but not as much preasure dmg as some of the builds i have used as well as the Primary one i posted here on the forum... what I believe both of you did was saw what you thought was a negative post about the Dervish and started flaming me about it instead of reading the entire post and posts it was in response to... Last edited by sinican; Nov 30, 2006 at 05:50 PM // 17:50.. |
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Nov 30, 2006, 01:35 PM // 13:35
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: SAW
Profession: D/
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dbl post
Last edited by sinican; Nov 30, 2006 at 01:38 PM // 13:38.. |
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Nov 30, 2006, 08:38 PM // 20:38
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Forge Runner
Join Date: May 2005
Location: San Diego, CA
Guild: Penguin Village
Profession: Mo/
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I was asking why there are too dang many tank builds, when you can make some use of that 9-41 weapon!
Why is Reaper's Sweep bad? Looks a little more conditional than Eviscerate, but... *shrugs* I also notice that the scythe skills are capped at +30, except for that attack, which reminds me of the lack of high powered hammer moves. |
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Nov 30, 2006, 11:01 PM // 23:01
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: SAW
Profession: D/
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if i hav ethis big badass weapon that doesn't allow me more defence i want to be able to do some nice dmg with it... so i traded my syth for a shield and a 1hd weapon and focused on an enchanting build that releases my enchants prematurely for a whomp of dmg and conditions meanwhile all the enchants keeping me alive and my energy running strong |
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