Curse

~ Dan ~ · Oct 28, 2007, 10:30 AM // 10:30

I've heard people briefly touch on this build but i've never really understood the point behind it.

My questions are:

What are the advantages of using orders derv over a necro (if any) ?

And what would be the whole bar?

Thanks in advance.

moko · Oct 28, 2007, 10:36 AM // 10:36

better energy management, survival, party heals from distance.

Tab · Oct 28, 2007, 11:52 AM // 11:52

Mysticism lets you spam Orders easily. That's about it.
The bars normally OoP/OoV and Dark Fury, with OoA or Pious Renewal as an elite if you're running OoP. The rest of the bar is filled with self survival such as Vital Boon+SoPL and Mystic Regen. They can be used as a runner of sorts with SoMS or Enchanted Haste.

zwei2stein · Oct 28, 2007, 03:43 PM // 15:43

i'd add better health management.

in pve, followup each order with signet of pious light -> you can spam 24/7 without ever having to worry about energy OR health.

for bar: http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build

/N_Mystic_Orders

damn smileys!

Tab · Oct 28, 2007, 03:47 PM // 15:47

That build has OoV and OoP. Yey for idiocy.

Burton2000 · Oct 28, 2007, 03:50 PM // 15:50

http://gwshack.us/3ec37

Thats the one from our old gvg build. Healing is no problem with it using vow of piety. And as oop and oov dont stack you can use dark fury instead of one of them. Also you can provide a constant hp to the party which is always nice.

Sab · Oct 28, 2007, 04:29 PM // 16:29

The build on Wiki is trash, go with the one Burton2000 posted.

blue.rellik · Oct 29, 2007, 04:33 AM // 04:33

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Originally Posted by Sab

The build on Wiki is trash, go with the one Burton2000 posted.

Do you have the link? I've been looking for it everywhere thanks

ヽ(´ー｀)ﾉ · Oct 29, 2007, 04:40 AM // 04:40

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

Do you have the link? I've been looking for it everywhere thanks

.... trying reading the thread.

zwei2stein · Oct 29, 2007, 11:43 AM // 11:43

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Originally Posted by Sab

The build on Wiki is trash, go with the one Burton2000 posted.

feel free to fix it if its trash ... geez, its wiki

fyi, it worked just fine in generall pve /tombs/ where half of group would votekick you for not having oov.

Stormlord Alex · Oct 29, 2007, 11:56 AM // 11:56

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

fyi, it worked just fine in generall pve /tombs/ where half of group would votekick you for not having oov.

All that proves is that the majority of people in PuGs are stupid and that PvE/Tombs is easy

Perfected Shadow · Oct 30, 2007, 04:51 AM // 04:51

Am I missing something? What's the point of Dark Fury?

ヽ(´ー｀)ﾉ · Oct 30, 2007, 04:54 AM // 04:54

It's like double adrenaline per hit.

Perfected Shadow · Oct 31, 2007, 07:18 AM // 07:18

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It's like double adrenaline per hit.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Orders builds only used with B/P groups nowadays?

Earth · Oct 31, 2007, 04:08 PM // 16:08

No, they're used in FoW etc aswell with paragons and stuff.

blue.rellik · Nov 01, 2007, 06:06 AM // 06:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by ヽ(´ー｀)ﾉ

.... trying reading the thread.

Missed that post, my bad

moko · Nov 01, 2007, 10:28 AM // 10:28

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Originally Posted by Perfected Shadow

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Orders builds only used with B/P groups nowadays?

..? any heavy physical team will run an orders with them. there's more than just farming teams you know. :P