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gunner96 · Jan 03, 2008, 08:38 PM // 20:38

What builds do you guys use? I have searched and read a few posts. Share your knowledge.

Knockers456 · Jan 03, 2008, 09:02 PM // 21:02

i use multiple builds but the best one for my is:
Avatar of balthaza
Lysaa attack
Chilling victory
Eternal aura
Sunspear Rebirth sig(if wiht other players)
Zealous Renewal
Mystic Regeneration
Faithful Intervention

~ Dan ~ · Jan 03, 2008, 09:05 PM // 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knockers456

i use multiple builds but the best one for my is:
Avatar of balthaza
Lysaa attack
Chilling victory
Eternal aura
Sunspear Rebirth sig(if wiht other players)
Zealous Renewal
Mystic Regeneration
Faithful Intervention

Don't listen to this fool, his build sucks.

Torment, imo isn't much harder than anywhere else. Therefore, you can just use a general PvE bar - and plenty have been posted around this section.

Painbringer · Jan 03, 2008, 09:26 PM // 21:26

I always ran heavy mysticism build. Lots of reoccurring burning. Never ran Balthzar as an avatar but I did run Lyssa and Merlandru

gunner96 · Jan 03, 2008, 09:48 PM // 21:48

Thanks, I use the Balthzar. Maybe I should try one of the other avatars.

Nyktos · Jan 03, 2008, 09:50 PM // 21:50

In general, Balthazar doesn't do much. Lyssa and Melandru are the best avatars for PvE.

Siirius Black · Jan 03, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

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Originally Posted by Nyktos

In general, Balthazar doesn't do much. Lyssa and Melandru are the best avatars for PvE.

This might sound like a newbie question (and it may be) but, why is Melandru and Lyssa better?

gunner96 · Jan 03, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

thanks nyktos

Nyktos · Jan 03, 2008, 10:06 PM // 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siirius Black

This might sound like a newbie question (and it may be) but, why is Melandru and Lyssa better?

Balthazar gives +33% speed boost and +40 armour. Now, neither of those effects is bad per se, but the thing is that speedboosts don't do much in PvE (most enemies stay in one place in NM), and that +40 armour doesn't seem as nice when you realize that it doesn't stack with the ubiquitous "Watch Yourself!" or with stances like Conviction. It also makes your damage holy, which is nice vs. Undead, but Aura of Holy Might does the same and it's an incredibly good skill.

Melandru on the other hand gives you +100 health and immunity to conditions. 100 health is no small amount, and it certainly ups your survival ability. Conditions are also present in most PvE areas, and AoM means your monk has one less person they need to remove them from.

Lyssa gives you high bonus damage vs foes activating skills. Since caster foes tend to spam like crazy, that means that you get that bonus on at least half your attacks against said caster foes. More damage = win.

Painbringer · Jan 03, 2008, 10:07 PM // 22:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siirius Black

This might sound like a newbie question (and it may be) but, why is Melandru and Lyssa better?

Lyssa damages the Heck out of a foe if they are casting spells or anything slow Rez spells Etc..

Melandru – plus 200 HP and conditions do not affect you (awesome)
Take an -1 +15 energy off hand with you just incase you get a neg DP

Dervish Kid · Jan 03, 2008, 11:06 PM // 23:06

using lyssa or melandru also means you must use a good strategy when in the torment area too..try not to aggro 2 groups orelse your in trouble.

~ Dan ~ · Jan 03, 2008, 11:27 PM // 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siirius Black

This might sound like a newbie question (and it may be) but, why is Melandru and Lyssa better?

Because they actually do something.

Siirius Black · Jan 03, 2008, 11:36 PM // 23:36

Thanks for the explanation!

I guess all depends on what kind of build you want to use, but I definetively
see your point about the condiitons if I take my Derv for example to kill Selve

Thanks again.

Bowstring Badass · Jan 04, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

[skill]avatar of lyssa[/skill][skill]wild blow[/skill] Take those 2 and fill in the rest of your bar with a res and other crap all you really need for PvE...

~ Dan ~ · Jan 04, 2008, 01:05 AM // 01:05

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Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass

[skill]avatar of lyssa[/skill][skill]wild blow[/skill] Take those 2 and fill in the rest of your bar with a res and other crap all you really need for PvE...

You forgot to mention that [skill]Eremite's Attack[/skill], [skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill] and [skill]Protector's Strike[/skill] should be stapled to your lyssa bar.

Keekles · Jan 04, 2008, 01:16 AM // 01:16

My Dervish Bar:

Radiant Scythe, Eremites Attack, Zealous Sweep, Wild Blow, Distracting Strike, Avatar of Lyssa{E}, Eternal Aura, Sunspear Rebirth Signet

~ Dan ~ · Jan 04, 2008, 01:35 AM // 01:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keekles

My Dervish Bar:

Radiant Scythe, Eremites Attack, Zealous Sweep, Wild Blow, Distracting Strike, Avatar of Lyssa{E}, Eternal Aura, Sunspear Rebirth Signet

5 attack skills

Only 1 is timed yet no IAS. Fail.

My bar:

[skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill][skill]Eremite's Attack[/skill][skill]Protector's Strike[/skill][skill]Wild Blow[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Avatar Of Lyssa[/skill] + Eternal Aura + Res.

Coloneh · Jan 04, 2008, 03:28 AM // 03:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

5 attack skills

Only 1 is timed yet no IAS. Fail.

My bar:

[skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill][skill]Eremite's Attack[/skill][skill]Protector's Strike[/skill][skill]Wild Blow[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Avatar Of Lyssa[/skill] + Eternal Aura + Res.

no AoHM? really?

Wild Blow
Eremite's attack
Mystic sweep
"I am the Strongest!" (or Rez when not using H/H)
Lyssa
Eternal Aura
HoF
AoHM

xDusT II · Jan 04, 2008, 03:45 AM // 03:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siirius Black

This might sound like a newbie question (and it may be) but, why is Melandru and Lyssa better?

Avatar of Balthazar is a collage of mediocre effects stabled together into one big mediocre elite skill. None of the effects that AoB gives you are worth gibing up your elite for and nearly all of them can be achieved with non-elite skills anyway.

blue.rellik · Jan 04, 2008, 04:50 AM // 04:50

AoB should only be used in low-mid level running