Jan 09, 2008, 08:06 PM // 20:06
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#21
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2007
Profession: R/
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you dont need an enchant to activate fury..it just removes one if you do. second hof can be striped..and your dps goes ploop for the next 30 seconds. however fury is a stance so its much harder to remove. so mine is a little shorter but much more dependable...
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Jan 09, 2008, 08:06 PM // 20:06
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#22
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2006
Profession: D/
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Thought i'd add another advantage of using HoF is that you can take a speedbuff stance at the same time. If you're running faster than that kiting monk, you're hitting him more. If you're hitting him more, you're doing your job better.
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Originally Posted by Aris the Accurate
you dont need an enchant to activate fury..it just removes one if you do. second hof can be striped..and your dps goes ploop for the next 30 seconds. however fury is a stance so its much harder to remove. so mine is a little shorter but much more dependable...
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And that's the problem. You can't have any enchants on with pious fury as your IAS. If you're happy to strip it to have that IAS, wtf is the enchant on your bar for?
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Jan 09, 2008, 08:07 PM // 20:07
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#23
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2007
Profession: R/
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your team has no sort of snare then your failing really hard
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Jan 09, 2008, 08:09 PM // 20:09
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#24
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2006
Profession: D/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aris the Accurate
your team has no sort of snare then your failing really hard
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If the other team aren't removing snares then they fail hard.
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Jan 09, 2008, 08:13 PM // 20:13
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#25
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2007
Profession: R/
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your nitpicking at this point..if you ABSOLUTLY needed a speed buff when attacking then no one would use frenzy
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Jan 09, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14
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#26
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island
Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm]
Profession: W/E
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Baed IAS is baed.
All the Mel dervs in GvG don't run Pious Fury for a reason.
... umm. What was this topic about?
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Jan 09, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14
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#27
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2006
Profession: D/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aris the Accurate
your nitpicking at this point..if you ABSOLUTLY needed a speed buff when attacking then no one would use frenzy
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No it's just the fact that they can't because all warrior speed buffs are stances.
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Jan 09, 2008, 08:20 PM // 20:20
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#28
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2007
Profession: R/
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I actually did see them running it at one point...But what I havn't seen in a while is hof
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Jan 09, 2008, 08:21 PM // 20:21
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#29
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2006
Profession: D/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aris the Accurate
I actually did see them running it at one point...But what I havn't seen in a while is hof
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And to think you called me blind. Wow.
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Jan 09, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26
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#30
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island
Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm]
Profession: W/E
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Why, oh cruel gods... Why?!
My folders full of cat pics are on another computer
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Jan 09, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26
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#31
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2007
Profession: R/
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you are mentally blind..theirs a difference
I give up..its obvious to me now why you guys made ether so pissed
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Jan 09, 2008, 08:28 PM // 20:28
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#32
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2006
Profession: D/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Why, oh cruel gods... Why?!
My folders full of cat pics are on another computer
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Dang, and they were wanted in some other thread in riverside, too
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aris the Accurate
you are mentally blind..theirs a difference
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Please explain that one to me.
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Jan 09, 2008, 08:31 PM // 20:31
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#33
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island
Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm]
Profession: W/E
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Jan 09, 2008, 08:42 PM // 20:42
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#34
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2007
Profession: R/
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All melee classes benefit greatly from IAS, remember 33% ias means you actually deal 50% more damage, 25% ias is 33% more damage.
in dervish skills you have these choices:
Heart of Fury: can be kept up about 60-75% of the time depending on build, sets enemies on fire when it ends (not really that great but its still a good thing), has the downside of having a cast time.
Whirling Charge: Only 25% ias, requires wind prayers which may or may not make it easy to put in a build, not affected by +enchant mods since its a stance, but can be used instantly in the middle of battle without pause, and has a movement boost (the usefulness of a movement boost isn't that much in PvE though)
Pious Fury: Generally if you run pious fury you are using no enchants at all or only using ones you want to lose. With Aura of Holy Might in PvE that is a HUGE downside.
Outside the dervish line Flail is quite good since you don't need adrenaline for anything else.
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Jan 09, 2008, 09:06 PM // 21:06
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#35
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2006
Profession: D/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Some of us here are too busy being on the brink of suicide to monitor Riverfail day and night
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Unbelievable!
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Jan 09, 2008, 09:15 PM // 21:15
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#36
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Wilds Pathfinder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
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i can has ur cats? :O
... I mean... <3!
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Jan 09, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16
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#37
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Desert Nomad
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Newsflash:
Heart of Fury is the best IAS for a Dervish.
another Newsflash:
Warrior IAS work very well on a Dervish, especially Flail.
another Newsflash:
melee classes NEED IAS.
last but not least:
Avatar of Melandru/Lyssa is your second best friend.
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Jan 09, 2008, 09:43 PM // 21:43
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#38
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island
Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm]
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Ftw
i can has ur cats? :O
... I mean... <3!
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Yes.
Yes you may.
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Jan 09, 2008, 09:43 PM // 21:43
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#39
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2006
Profession: D/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zling
Avatar of Melandru/Lyssa is your second best friend.
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Who is your first best friend?
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Jan 09, 2008, 10:32 PM // 22:32
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#40
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)
Guild: Xen of Onslaught
Profession: D/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Meth
All melee classes benefit greatly from IAS, remember 33% ias means you actually deal 50% more damage, 25% ias is 33% more damage.
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Exactly. 50% more damage may be important for a warrior, but it's EVEN MORE important for a dervish - we know it hits hard already, but why stop there? Hitting hard frequently is obviously better!
If you can't grasp that you really don't understand the game.
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