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Luminarus · Mar 18, 2008, 06:33 AM // 06:33

Its like a 0 expertise ranger, a 0 df monk, a 0 fast casting mesmer, a 0 sr necro etc etc etc... I believe the term is noob, but it could also be brainless, goldfish, & retard

Dave-o · Mar 18, 2008, 06:49 AM // 06:49

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

look a goldfish!

WHERE?

but yeah, mysticism is awesome for energy management, especialy in enchantment heavy builds (wich you'll mostly have as a dervish, if not, you waste ze dervish).

Toa Hahli · Mar 18, 2008, 01:00 PM // 13:00

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Originally Posted by Sirius-NZ

Energy return. The fact that others' enchantments (e.g. prot monks) also trigger it makes it even better.

Its an ok Energy Return, but i usually use a Zealous Scythe on my Derv. So i dont really use Mysticism.

~ Dan ~ · Mar 18, 2008, 01:49 PM // 13:49

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Originally Posted by Toa Hahli

Its an ok Energy Return, but i usually use a Zealous Scythe on my Derv. So i dont really use Mysticism.

Use both, durrrr

Toa Hahli · Mar 18, 2008, 01:54 PM // 13:54

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

Use both, durrrr

Why..? Zealous gives more return than Mysticism does.

~ Dan ~ · Mar 18, 2008, 02:53 PM // 14:53

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Originally Posted by Toa Hahli

Why..? Zealous gives more return than Mysticism does.

Because zealous and mysticism gives more energy than zealous. And if you're not speccing mysticism for the awesome skills it has, your build is already bad.

Toa Hahli · Mar 18, 2008, 03:56 PM // 15:56

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

Because zealous and mysticism gives more energy than zealous. And if you're not speccing mysticism for the awesome skills it has, your build is already bad.

Way to pre-judge there. Makes you look stupid. Just because people dont like what you use and you dont like what they use doesnt make it bad. Not everyone is a Enchant/Mystic Regen Noob. I do fine without Mysticism.

Zahr Dalsk · Mar 18, 2008, 04:06 PM // 16:06

Lack of mysticism on a Dervish is just stupid; it's like not taking Soul Reaping as a Necromancer.

Amy Awien · Mar 18, 2008, 04:25 PM // 16:25

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Originally Posted by shoyon456

... I didn't really realize what he said until i realized, he LEFT OUT THE MYSTICISM.

Then he did not say 0 either. He might have been running a 4 attribute setup with a bunch of majors.

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Originally Posted by MasterSasori

Notice that I stated SOME in the description.

No, you didn't, you said a 'good percentage', there's a difference. You'll get a better response if you refrain from that kind of talk, not even to about 'some', it serves no purpose anyway.

joshuarodger · Mar 18, 2008, 04:29 PM // 16:29

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Originally Posted by Toa Hahli

Way to pre-judge there. Makes you look stupid. Just because people dont like what you use and you dont like what they use doesnt make it bad. Not everyone is a Enchant/Mystic Regen Noob. I do fine without Mysticism.

out of curiousity, what build are you running? personally i can't think of a good build that doesn't use mysticism, but i'm willing to give anything a shot if it works. There are places where enchants aren't really the best options and i would like to try something new to spice things up a bit.

Yuhe Ji · Mar 18, 2008, 04:45 PM // 16:45

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Originally Posted by Toa Hahli

Way to pre-judge there. Makes you look stupid. Just because people dont like what you use and you dont like what they use doesnt make it bad. Not everyone is a Enchant/Mystic Regen Noob. I do fine without Mysticism.

BTW, Mystic Regen is under Earth Prayers. All dervs must be running some enchantments. If they aren't, then they probably aren't using a scythe (or else they would die pretty quickly). Those enchantments take energy, but mysticism can give some of that energy back.

~ Dan ~ · Mar 18, 2008, 05:42 PM // 17:42

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Originally Posted by Toa Hahli

Way to pre-judge there. Makes you look stupid. Just because people dont like what you use and you dont like what they use doesnt make it bad. Not everyone is a Enchant/Mystic Regen Noob. I do fine without Mysticism.

So that translates to:
- You don't use any mysticism skills, in particular no avatars.
- You have way worse e-management than a normal dervish (unless running zealous vow, for some random reason).
- You don't use Aura Of Holy Might or Heart Of Fury.

I'm sure i missed some other stuff. There is one word for you. Fail.

moko · Mar 18, 2008, 07:23 PM // 19:23

guess some people have yet to grow up, especially regarding a PvE/PvP fight.

i don't think i need to hint you guys anymore, so stop with what you've been doing or another topic goes down.

Toa Hahli · Mar 18, 2008, 07:27 PM // 19:27

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Originally Posted by moko

guess some people have yet to grow up, especially regarding a PvE/PvP fight.

i don't think i need to hint you guys anymore, so stop with what you've been doing or another topic goes down.

Im not arguing over which is better, ive said before. Neither is superior to another. Only problem are Egos. All i say is Mysticism is basically useless when you can get back x2 the energy with a Zealous before even 1 enchant wears off. Then i get bombarded that im a noob. How this site is 'Elite' by guild wars standards is beyond me.

Splitisoda · Mar 18, 2008, 07:31 PM // 19:31

Only reason I would see any point with 0 mysticism, is if you say had 12 SM, and 12 wind prayers for
[skill]Natural Healing[/skill][skill]Pious Restoration[/skill][skill]Featherfoot Grace[/skill]

Coloneh · Mar 18, 2008, 07:50 PM // 19:50

if i wanted to play without a primary attribute i would just play mesmer. at least they look cool

Shuuda · Mar 18, 2008, 10:28 PM // 22:28

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

if i wanted to play without a primary attribute i would just play mesmer. at least they look cool

Fast Casting is actually important in PvP...... Diversion without it would be unplayable after all. So please, enough with your not having a clue.

Sirius-NZ · Mar 18, 2008, 10:29 PM // 22:29

If you have 5 enchantments on you (and I'm talking about enchantments other people cast on you, not you on yourself), and 12 mysticism, the energy gain you're going to get is anything but useless. It also doesn't rely on finding groups of enemies for the energy gain to work; zealous still more than breaks even against single targets, but it needs two or three to really shine... and a lot of the time, targets don't stick together. (More often in PvP than PvE, of course.)

Div · Mar 18, 2008, 11:06 PM // 23:06

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Originally Posted by moko

guess some people have yet to grow up, especially regarding a PvE/PvP fight.

i don't think i need to hint you guys anymore, so stop with what you've been doing or another topic goes down.

Another topic's gone down.