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Hanuka · Oct 04, 2008, 10:10 AM // 10:10

Who is better for long term PvE??
And is Dervish good for Soloing? what about the Paragon?

Maccarelly · Oct 04, 2008, 11:08 AM // 11:08

I suggest you make a paragon if you are looking at playing him/her long term due to the fact you can choose to become an imbagon which will allow you more chance of doing elite areas later in the game(s) This is assuming they don't nerf SY.

Dervish does have its ups but it is limited in the farming respect, I have one and only use it for 4 physical fow.

N1ghtstalker · Oct 04, 2008, 11:29 AM // 11:29

derv has more versitality
para is just spam SY and TNTF

Tyla · Oct 04, 2008, 11:29 AM // 11:29

They're both stupid in power.

Dervs have the most insane weapon damage in the game, with great skills to increase their power, such as Aura of Holy Might, Wounding Strike etc..

Paragons have the most imbalanced defensive skill and IAS in the game, and while being in range deal roughly the same DPS as a Sword Warrior. Not to mention their energy management.

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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker

derv has more versitality
para is just spam SY and TNTF

Song of Purification.
Song of Restoration.
Cruel Spear.
Stunning Strike.
Heck, there's plenty more builds you can use.

shing jea crew · Oct 04, 2008, 11:30 AM // 11:30

be a dervish they can transform and paragon wear skirts CHAT! anyway i suggest you be a dervish because when you are lvl 5 you hit 100 damage. Also i am lvl 20 d/mo and have only died 6 times! BE A DERVISH

[Morkai] · Oct 04, 2008, 12:07 PM // 12:07

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Originally Posted by shing jea crew

be a dervish they can transform and paragon wear skirts CHAT! anyway i suggest you be a dervish because when you are lvl 5 you hit 100 damage. Also i am lvl 20 d/mo and have only died 6 times! BE A DERVISH

And Dervish's don't wear dresses?

OP: As said, Para is Godmode for your party. Dervish has supreme strength, and can solo more things (such as certain farming areas).

GW being a CO-RPG, i suggest you go with the paragon.

Hanuka · Oct 04, 2008, 12:49 PM // 12:49

yarr.. dammit.
Was about to go with my Dervish..
But now y'all got me thinking again

I heard many people say that Paragons suck at PuG's and solo..
Is that true?

Which and does Dervishes suck at PvP??

Tyla · Oct 04, 2008, 01:01 PM // 13:01

People are stupid. You shouldn't trust what 90% of the people who play this game say because they're the ones running the Mending W/Mo seriously most of the time.

Dervs in PvP have Wounding Strike.

Taixen · Oct 04, 2008, 01:10 PM // 13:10

I've got one of each and can say that I find Dervish more enjoyable.

Paragon's have quite a few uses but most people you meet in game will expect that you suck, or are an Imbagon. (Which is of course not true, <3 Stunning Strike)

Paragon can also be quite good support with Stunning Strike in RA, imo anyways.

You could always make one of both, play them for a while and just delete the one you don't enjoy

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Hanuka · Oct 04, 2008, 01:12 PM // 13:12

Hm.. I think I be on the Dervish side for now..

But um.. as for paragon, can he be also good offence, like better than Dervish?
Cos I ain't like much Def based charz..

Although.. I already have a very advanced Sin(in PvE) which I'm hoping to
take it only for PvP, and if I'll have also Dervish I be hasing 2 dmg based charz..
but with Paragon I'll have also a good support char... what you guyz think I should choose??

Tyla · Oct 04, 2008, 01:15 PM // 13:15

A Paragon won't meet the offensive capabilities of a Dervish, but a Paragon could support the party offensively and defensively better. If you want to PvP though, make a PvP character. It's cheaper and easier and doesn't need you to buy all of your weaponsets.

NecroticChanter · Oct 04, 2008, 01:20 PM // 13:20

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Originally Posted by Hanuka

yarr.. dammit.
Was about to go with my Dervish..
But now y'all got me thinking again

I heard many people say that Paragons suck at PuG's and solo..
Is that true?

Which and does Dervishes suck at PvP??

lol Paras don't suck at Pugs. They can maintain +100 armor on all party members at all times and additional dmg reduction on top of that(TNTF). They can apply tons of conditions. They help all physical fighters...for example...Anthem of Envy... every few seconds, your physicals get +20 or so dmg. Oh and the armor...pretty heavy for a ranged character. Hex and condition removal. hmm but they are right,

PARAGONS CAN'T SOLO SHIT.

No, dervs don't suck at PvP. Paragons don't either. Cruel Spear or the Song of Resto/Ballad of Resto combo in GvG can help win or lose a match. Although it's not that effective any more since they got nerfed.

Just remember. Shouts can't be stripped like enchants. A dervish without enchants will die in seconds.

[Morkai] · Oct 04, 2008, 02:00 PM // 14:00

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Originally Posted by NecroticChanter

PARAGONS CAN'T SOLO SHIT.

I love how you are wrong. I have a friend who solo's Stygian farms with his gon. They can solo FoW. There are UW builds for paragons.

Para's don't suck, but their reputation means you won't get much PUG action because people are stupid.

NecroticChanter · Oct 04, 2008, 02:13 PM // 14:13

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Originally Posted by Berek

I love how you are wrong. I have a friend who solo's Stygian farms with his gon. They can solo FoW. There are UW builds for paragons.

Para's don't suck, but their reputation means you won't get much PUG action because people are stupid.

UW solo? Are you talking about the retarded one with the scythe? Oh I'm sry, I don't counted retarded builds that can't survive HM. There's that other one with spinter weapon in DoA...Hey it's a fake derv and fake splinter barrager! *claps*

Kerwyn Nasilan · Oct 04, 2008, 02:50 PM // 14:50

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Originally Posted by NecroticChanter

UW solo? Are you talking about the retarded one with the scythe? Oh I'm sry, I don't counted retarded builds that can't survive HM. There's that other one with spinter weapon in DoA...Hey it's a fake derv and fake splinter barrager! *claps*

A). Why would you farmn UW in HM, no more ectos and takes longer to kill things, B). Yes they can farm and your trolling is useless.

[Morkai] · Oct 04, 2008, 11:46 PM // 23:46

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Originally Posted by NecroticChanter

UW solo? Are you talking about the retarded one with the scythe? Oh I'm sry, I don't counted retarded builds that can't survive HM. There's that other one with spinter weapon in DoA...Hey it's a fake derv and fake splinter barrager! *claps*

It's a Pure Paragon build. I'm sorry you were just denied.

Your trolling is bad.

MegaVolti · Oct 05, 2008, 09:13 AM // 09:13

Paragon is more like a Ritualist: Great party support (the bigger the party the better) but lacking offensive on its own. Party support can be both offensive and defensive but the defensive one is way more powerful.
Dervish is like a lovechild between Warrior and Assassin: Awesome damage with great defense. And area of effect damage for free

Hanuka · Oct 05, 2008, 11:40 AM // 11:40

hehe xD
Already made a Dervish, and I think I'm gonna stick with him xP

Thanks for the replies all! ^^

Drizzitdude · Oct 05, 2008, 06:49 PM // 18:49

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Originally Posted by Hanuka

hehe xD
Already made a Dervish, and I think I'm gonna stick with him xP

Thanks for the replies all! ^^

ok heres a solution. make both. Try your fun with dervishes ( i'm one!). Then go ahead and make a new charecter thats a paragon and check out the different oppurtunities and skills. Decide then which one you like better.

If you going for "Ph33r me i am solo god of death!" be a dervish.

If you want "ha ha nubs Ph33r me and my (nearly) invincable party!" then go paragon

In a less retarded translation:

Dervish: High damage dealers with enchants, forms, and crazy scythe skills to support them. This is a great solo class and due to a few useful skills like avatar of balthazar or vow of silence they are great runners. Though this main seemed biased i like to think of a derv as pure ownage in a can.

Paragon: This class is more support then anything. Dont get me wrong they arent 'weak' persay but they just arent mainly damage dealers. The role of the paragon lies within their party. Using leadership and command skills a paragon makes his/her party stronger. Also just because a para is mainly a support class doesnt mean you cant jump into the fight as well. many paragons like to make a build that in most part supports their team but can also do DECENT damage.

I hope this helped cleared things up. But guessing by that quote i put in i am guessing OP will probly leave this to rot

Darkside · Oct 05, 2008, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Depends on what you enjoy doing more...Paragon's have great party buffing skills and decent enough dps on their own. Dervish's are good at self buffing and can do obscene amounts of damage.

So do you wanna buff your party so it does more damage and at the same time takes very little. Or do you wanna drop monsters in a couple hits and see really big numbers flying around? I personally enjoy both classes so I'd say make both.