Curse

iVendetta · Jan 31, 2009, 02:14 AM // 02:14

I am currently running this build for the mission:
[Victorious [email protected]][Mystic [email protected]][Chilling [email protected]][Lightbringer's Gaze][Heart of [email protected]][Eternal Aura][Avatar of [email protected]][Renew [email protected]]
(Very general build, although it has carried me for quite a number of missions)

I didn't go too far and then I had to log off, unfortunately. But my party and I were doing very well up to that point.

So what I am wondering is if this build should cover for this mission. I am a bit intimidated from Guild Wars Wiki: "This mission is considered one of the hardest in the Nightfall campaign".

Should I restructure my build to serve as a blindbot ([Ebon Dust Aura]), or keep it like this, or you can throw down a build and some tips or two.

MisterT69 · Jan 31, 2009, 02:19 AM // 02:19

[wounding strike][asuran scan] are 2 options you can bring with 3 discorders and henchmen. You should be able to start blowing s*** up in this mission no problem.

iVendetta · Jan 31, 2009, 02:21 AM // 02:21

I have not the Eye of the North expansion pack.

/wrists

Also, keep in mind I'm fighting this godly Assassin and some intimidating Necromancer, so extra damage is not the case here. ;3

fenix · Jan 31, 2009, 02:32 AM // 02:32

I would use Reaper's Sweep over Wounding Strike, there's no need for Deep Wound spam, especially at the end of the mission. Reaper's with Conjure Lightning or Fire for bonus damage. You'll want to bring a lot of hexes, they're very helpful. Considering bringing a couple necromancers just for shutdown.

**Marty Silverblade** · Jan 31, 2009, 02:32 AM // 02:32

Take out the Lich first. He's a ton easier than Shiro.

Also note that Shiro's damage only kicks in when you start dealing damage to him -> most of his damage is produced through Battle Scars and that other one that makes him hit stuff (Impossible Odds?) This means you can take out the Lich with very little interference from Shiro.

warrior running · Jan 31, 2009, 03:06 AM // 03:06

ya discord should work and run ws wiht pain inverter

Pip Squeak · Jan 31, 2009, 03:30 AM // 03:30

If possible try and get a guild member with [pain inverter] because this is VERY useful for foes that deal lots of damage. Try and pull the lich or shiro by themselves; avoid pulling both (they'll wipe party :P). When you've killed one of them run to the god shrines and cape them as quickly as possible while avoiding shiro/lich.

Skyy High · Jan 31, 2009, 07:47 AM // 07:47

Stance removal is a plus; bring wild blow for Shiro's Battle Scars.

Super Igor · Jan 31, 2009, 12:15 PM // 12:15

Fix your heroes, dont pug pug are horrible 99.99999999999999999999% of the time. Dont use blind he will rape you with impossible odds transfering blind back at ya. What you do Idk take a necro with [spiteful spirit][reckless haste][price of failure][insidious parasite](yeah insidious wont trigger when he misses but will when he wont) and take [wild blow] to remove his battle scars every time he casts them otherwise they + impossible odds will assplode your party kill lich cap all shrines and kill that narutard with all the buffs n stuff.

TalanRoarer · Jan 31, 2009, 01:21 PM // 13:21

well first of all, you should do Lich - > Shrines - > Shiro
Try Running [Heart of Holy Flame] if you have problems killing the lich.
The shrines are simple as shrio wont do you much damage if you dont attack him.
Take 2x [Wild Blow] as 1x isnt enough incase you get raped or mis time one.
I found a [Spoil Victor] Necro with a few prot skills like [Protective Spirit] and [Spirit Bond] to help too

daze · Feb 01, 2009, 04:23 AM // 04:23

That mission was the hardest mission out of all 3 campaigns. Now after knowing what to do i can get masters on Hard Mode 100% of the time.

if you are a derv then you will want [avatar of balthazar] or [heart of holy flame] because holy damage is preferred for that mission.

the trick to shiro is he will only target 1 person at a time sooo if you just make him "Chase the rabbit", Shiro will not be an issue.. If you PUG or play with 7 other humans. Just tell them that if shiro targets them, they should just run in circles. This will make shiro look like a dumbass. And as stated earlier [wild blow] should be brought by anyone who can hold it.

If you are just using H/H then its even easier with [discord]. You will want at least 1 hero that can summon minions. They will keep shiro busy while you spike down the Lich. Then go clear the shrines, then spike down Shiro. When i fight Shiro, i usually spread out my flags so his AoE pain doesn't kill us all.

Darkside · Feb 01, 2009, 06:59 AM // 06:59

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Originally Posted by daze

if you are a derv then you will want [avatar of balthazar] or [heart of holy flame] because holy damage is preferred for that mission.

Both those skills are garbage [Aura of Holy Might] should be used if you want Holy damage...but in either case you do not NEED holy damage for this mission period. The Lich has weak armor and goes down quickly enough anyway.

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And as stated earlier [wild blow] should be brought by anyone who can hold it.

First good tip you have offered. [Wild blow] is to be used every time Shiro uses battle scars. If you don't then when he uses that in combination with Impossible Odds he will heal himself back up to full health and the entire party will wipe.

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If you are just using H/H then its even easier with [discord]. You will want at least 1 hero that can summon minions. They will keep shiro busy while you spike down the Lich. Then go clear the shrines, then spike down Shiro. When i fight Shiro, i usually spread out my flags so his AoE pain doesn't kill us all.

Some truth to this. Shiro's damage initially is pretty weak and he can be ignored while you take out the Lich and capture the shrines (if you want the bonus). He only becomes dangerous when his health gets low and he starts using impossible odds. Skills like [spiteful spirit], [empathy], [spoil victor], and [pain inverter], basically anything that punishes him for attacking help a lot. [pain inverter] is probably the best option for the job but If you can't find someone with that skill to help you out equip one of your nec heroes with [spoil victor] it can get the job done almost as well.

Super Igor · Feb 01, 2009, 11:32 AM // 11:32

sooo take a mez and two necs with something like mmm...

[spiteful spirit][reckless haste][price of failure][insidious parasite][signet of lost souls][enfeebling blood][splinter weapon][flesh of my flesh]
[spoil victor][weapon of warding][spirit light][mend body and soul][protective was kaolai][life][signet of lost souls][flesh of my flesh]
[visions of regret][empathy][wastrel's worry][cry of frustration][power drain][power spike][drain enchantment][resurrection chant]

Basically, this should kill him very fast with all the buffs, please note that [wastrels worry] will last much shorter duration on him.

You take [aura of holy might] and [wild blow]

iVendetta · Feb 01, 2009, 05:10 PM // 17:10

Thanks for the tips, guys. I'll try to find a few Alliance members to set up as posted.

Super Igor · Feb 03, 2009, 11:23 AM // 11:23

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Originally Posted by iVendetta

Thanks for the tips, guys. I'll try to find a few Alliance members to set up as posted.

H/H > Alliance members

bungusmaximus · Feb 03, 2009, 12:22 PM // 12:22

Timing is also pretty important. as soon as you see him hit Impossible Odds you should shower him with hexes, especially Insidious Parasite and/or Spiteful, or Spoil Victor. He will shake off one hex so covering with [parasitic bond] might also help, this way the money hexes stay on.

blue.rellik · Feb 03, 2009, 03:53 PM // 15:53

You guys are overrating the mission, it was a complete breeze even in HM.

You're a dervish, bringing [wild blow] is pretty much the only requirement for it. It makes those dam ranger torment demons and Shiro much easier

gw_poster · Feb 03, 2009, 04:39 PM // 16:39

you can keep shiro busy if you just keep someone casting spirits in the center or keep a tank attacking him and running around as someone suggested earlier...then just systematically take out the groups in each arm (hill) and hold the altar then onto the next. The lich can be pulled way outside to the main area, making it very easy to kill. Personally, I think clearing all the rift warden and margonites protecting them is harder than the end portion of the mission, if you're not careful overaggro will decimate your group in HM. PI will blow the Armageddon lord up, so be sure someone has it, and an interrupter mes and BHA ranger will help in this mission, too. GL

Edit: just to add 2 cents - i think dragonur bastion was the hardest HM mission to complete with masters in NF...until you know the pattern...figuring it out was a biiatch though lol

MrTickle · Feb 03, 2009, 07:55 PM // 19:55

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Originally Posted by Pip Squeak

...When you've killed one of them run to the god shrines and cape them as quickly as possible while avoiding shiro/lich.

Before you get too close to the open door to Shiro & Lich (once you've closed the portals) and before you kill either you can flag your heroes to each of the shrines to cap them (works in HM too) it doesn't matter if they get capped back you'll still get the bonus.
Every time I've done this and tried to agro just the Lich first it's always Shiro that comes running up while the Lich stayed at the bottom so I've always killed Shiro first then the Lich so it doesn't matter which of the 2 you kill first.

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Originally Posted by gw_poster

... just to add 2 cents - i think dragonur bastion was the hardest HM mission to complete with masters in NF...until you know the pattern...figuring it out was a biiatch though lol

You're telling me

It's my last HM mission & I can't do it H&H

iVendetta · Feb 04, 2009, 04:32 AM // 04:32

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Originally Posted by Super Igor

H/H > Alliance members

Lol, I just PuG'd because most of Alliance was offline or busy; we got raped.

Since we don't want conditions on Shiro, I was thinking of maybe running a [Vow of Strength] build. Any suggestions or opinions?

***Note: Vow of Strength's description is incorrect. It is:

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Elite Enchantment Spell. (20 seconds.) Adds 5...41...50% damage to your attacks against foes not suffering from any conditions.

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