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Welthas · Mar 01, 2009, 01:34 AM // 01:34

Well I have been Vfffing alot with my dervish and a have been trying all new builds but none from PvX because I want to make my own well open for suggestions I want high damage output but being able to tank also. [Great Dwarf Armor] [mystic vigor] are the tanking skills I use any suggestions? Or is Dwayna the best option for tanking.

Revelations · Mar 01, 2009, 08:08 AM // 08:08

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Originally Posted by Welthas

...I want high damage output...

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Originally Posted by Welthas

...able to tank also...

Depends on your definition of tanking, but these two are for the most part mutually exclusive. And besides tanks are pretty useless for general PvE, the only place where they become useful is in degenerate team farming builds, or the occasional DoA team. (still team farming I suppose).

You're probably better off taking warrior secondary, throwing in [Save Yourselves!] and making everyone a tank.

As for elite, Melandru, WS, Reapers, or perhaps Onslaught would be my pve skills of choice. Focus more on damage and let your mid/backline handle the rest IMO.

Welthas · Mar 01, 2009, 01:30 PM // 13:30

Ok thanks, I made a build that works very well at spamming by using [zealous vow] that helps alot with energy management allowing fast damage outputs. And, if you don't mind can you post that DoA tank build.

pingu666 · Mar 01, 2009, 04:21 PM // 16:21

could have grenth, but thats a avatar :\
think theres some armour aborbstiony stuff in earth prayers

iVendetta · Mar 01, 2009, 05:01 PM // 17:01

If you want to 'tank', I would suggest you pick up [[Obsidian Flesh].

[Stoneflesh Aura][Obsidian Flesh][Armor of Earth][Glyph of Lesser Energy][Mirage Cloak][Mystic Regeneration][Fleeting Stability][Ward Against Foes]

However, you said you also want to output massive damage. That is tricky when you're a tank. Tanks are meant to soak up damage and keep the mob busy while your team punishes them.

Revelations · Mar 02, 2009, 12:21 AM // 00:21

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Originally Posted by Welthas

And, if you don't mind can you post that DoA tank build.

See the post above mine

Lusciious · Mar 02, 2009, 09:11 AM // 09:11

personally, a tank in my opnion can survive being hit alot. i like using [great dwarf armor][armor of sanctity][veil of thorn][mystic regeneration]. 4 enchants = 12 hp regen. and with high armor from great dwarf armor and damage reduction from armor of sanctity, you should be able to tank.

if you don't have [great dwarf armor] get [conviction] if you still want the +12 hp regen, make sure you have 13 in earth prayers. yes i know hp regen is capped at +10 but if you suffer from burning, you'd still have a +5 regen since +12 - +7 = +5

Welthas · Mar 04, 2009, 03:21 AM // 03:21

When I meant damage output I meant stuff like, spiking not really over-all damage haha.

Mainly I'm looking for a tankable build that uses some type of Zealous skill to be able to spam your attacks such as, [Zealous Vow]

Zodiak · Mar 04, 2009, 02:44 PM // 14:44

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Originally Posted by iVendetta

[Stoneflesh Aura][Obsidian Flesh][Armor of Earth][Glyph of Lesser Energy][Mirage Cloak][Mystic Regeneration][Fleeting Stability][Ward Against Foes]

Mental Block might be a good alternative to Mirage Cloak

[Stoneflesh Aura][Obsidian Flesh][Armor of Earth][Glyph of Lesser Energy][Mental Block][Mystic Regeneration][Fleeting Stability][Ward Against Foes]

boarderx · Mar 04, 2009, 05:15 PM // 17:15

a tank is a waste of a party member anyway, cuz if aggro ever gets past you you are useless to just stand there and wait for the team to kill em. Bringing 1-2 or even 3 defensive skills isnt a bad idea but an entire bar designed for defense is a pain. Just know what your getting into before going in and set up monk/healers acccordingly and if you have questions on what to run on those dont hesitate to ask (and if ppl are being annoying here jsut come hang out at the EYE alliance forums, we never flame and enjoy helping others)
http://awesomedotcom.org/main.html

iVendetta · Mar 05, 2009, 12:24 AM // 00:24

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Originally Posted by boarderx

a tank is a waste of a party member anyway, cuz if aggro ever gets past you you are useless to just stand there and wait for the team to kill em. Bringing 1-2 or even 3 defensive skills isnt a bad idea but an entire bar designed for defense is a pain. Just know what your getting into before going in and set up monk/healers acccordingly and if you have questions on what to run on those dont hesitate to ask (and if ppl are being annoying here jsut come hang out at the EYE alliance forums, we never flame and enjoy helping others)
http://awesomedotcom.org/main.html

Some team builds require tanks.

zling · Mar 07, 2009, 08:43 PM // 20:43

I think what the op wants is NOT a tank but rather an offensive character with high self survivability.

if I'm indeed correct than I'd say that this idea is pretty worthless, cause if you're in a team you have Monks and other defenses like [save yourselves] and if you're soloing than you need very specific farming builds for whatever place you're solo farming.

Welthas · Mar 09, 2009, 04:00 AM // 04:00

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Originally Posted by zling

I think what the op wants is NOT a tank but rather an offensive character with high self survivability.

if I'm indeed correct than I'd say that this idea is pretty worthless, cause if you're in a team you have Monks and other defenses like [save yourselves] and if you're soloing than you need very specific farming builds for whatever place you're solo farming.

Exactly I want to be able to spam high dmg output and have good survivability.

boarderx · Mar 09, 2009, 03:15 PM // 15:15

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Originally Posted by iVendetta

Some team builds require tanks.

i guess it depends on the team build you want to run but if you change up your team build chancese are you wont need a dedicated tank, just have ppl that do dmg and ppl that heal. The only place i can tihnk of that needs a dedicated tank is UW for the 4 horsmen split.

all other elite areas dont really need someone to tank. But its like i always say, play the way you have the most fun, if you like to tank go for it but if you team with me id rather you just kill stuff, lol. Anyway, have fun and dont be afraid to just do some wicked DPS and let the healers keep ya up.