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Watermelon Tacos · Jul 11, 2009, 03:07 PM // 15:07

Hi everyone! I've been using this build: OgGjkyqDLTAYDYMXvlkbibjeieA(not sure how to use BB code thingy) and I thought it was pretty good when I went through nightfall but as soon as I tried gate of madness hm I just kept dying. I've thought of using great dwarf armor instead of SY! but I can't see how that would make a big difference...

Slasher of Darkness · Jul 11, 2009, 03:28 PM // 15:28

That's a rly solid build, I'd switch out chilling victory for Zealous sweep and yes, if you want you can use GDA. I probably would, see which works better for u, SY! or GDA. Oh, and if you kept dying, what's ur team build?

Watermelon Tacos · Jul 11, 2009, 03:59 PM // 15:59

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Originally Posted by Slasher of Darkness

That's a rly solid build, I'd switch out chilling victory for Zealous sweep and yes, if you want you can use GDA. I probably would, see which works better for u, SY! or GDA. Oh, and if you kept dying, what's ur team build?

I've been using sabway with healer hench, fire hench, motivation hench and fighter hench and I only seem to have survival problems in HM. Energy doesn't seem to be an issue for me.

IronSheik · Jul 11, 2009, 04:05 PM // 16:05

Derv is my main, and I dislike wounding. My vanqing/Guardian build is mainly

Zealous Vow. Eremite's Sweep, Mystic Sweep, Protector's Strike, (Optional) Asuran Scan, SY, AoHM

Optional is whatever you see fit, but if yours works better, be my guest. For my henchmen I take two monks, Herta, and usually mes in NF

EDIT: For my heroes, I've been running a RoJ/Prot with Judge's Insight and SoH, the +24 from each hit on a scythe adds up fast, and the 20% penetration ain't bad neither. 2nd, I run MM bomber with dwaynas heals. 3rd is normally a whatever, Tease mes on occasion (Great support), A Curses to help pump damage with MoP and Barbs, or sometimes a support Rit with splinter.

Keep in mind you're the big damage of the team, so do whatever you can to boost it

Another EDIT: These builds aren't perfect, but it'll get GoM Done. There's endless variants.

MM OANDUshtSxMKgVBoBbENgTfVVA

RoJ OwYT44XCzxntQQG1j7aAZeY9BA

Tease OQhjAgDaIP+0eARIDMMveZsLG

Curse OAhkYgHcoIqTeoMYJsDYsdXVN5C

Rit OACiIyk8cNLneTmJGDAAASuA <-Whatevers in blanks

Slasher of Darkness · Jul 11, 2009, 04:06 PM // 16:06

I'd take the other healer/protter hench instead of the fighter dude. And yeah, my bad, take odurra instead of the motivation as sheik said

Lux Aeterna · Jul 11, 2009, 06:58 PM // 18:58

How are you going to hero hench gate of madness?

Also I suggest you run some sort of armor insignia such as windwalker, enchant removal permitting, because it makes your squishie frontlining derv take much less damage which will take pressure off your monks and decrease the likelyhood of you getting spiked while WoH is on recharge.

IronSheik · Jul 11, 2009, 07:19 PM // 19:19

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Originally Posted by Lux Aeterna

How are you going to hero hench gate of madness?

Also I suggest you run some sort of armor insignia such as windwalker, enchant removal permitting, because it makes your squishie frontlining derv take much less damage which will take pressure off your monks and decrease the likelyhood of you getting spiked while WoH is on recharge.

Hero henching madness is easy, all you have to really do is make a team build that can kill shiro with 10+ buffs.

You can easily kill 5 portals and flag heroes to each shrine to cap it fast, then pull lich, then shiro falls right after, as long as you can kill him and still upkeep a team, it's easy. And margonites honestly don't spike well, they're more pressure than spiking.

Slasher of Darkness · Jul 11, 2009, 07:22 PM // 19:22

Aye H/H GoM HM is pretty easy.. ^^

reaper with no name · Jul 11, 2009, 07:35 PM // 19:35

Ok, I'm too lazy to log in just to check your build, but from what I can gather you're using WS , SY!, and CV. Chances are if you have SY!, then you also have AoHM.

So far, it looks pretty solid to me as a general build. WS+SY! is one of the few dervish builds that a sin or warrior can't do better (scythe warrior can't spam DW, scythe sin can't spam SY!).

However, if you're doing gate of madness, this build won't work (I know that from experience, and I haven't even TRIED hm yet!). First off, you shouldn't be bringing WS (or any conditions except crippling, for that matter), because Shiro can transfer them to you with Impossible Odds (the only reason to bring crippling is to slow him down while you do the bonus). This is one of the rare cases where Vow of Strength is a great choice of elite, because there's no reason not to take it (well, assuming you bring a stance-ending skill like Wild Blow so you can knock Shiro out of Battle Scars).

I'd recommend studying what the wiki suggests about beating the mission, and then searching "gate of madness" on youtube. You'll find a couple videos of a guy doing the mission with H/H and giving tips along the way. It's very informative, and was key to helping me finally beat the mission. Plus, you get to listen to some cool metal while you watch.

Expherious · Jul 11, 2009, 09:30 PM // 21:30

arkfenway 12 chars

High Voltage Killer · Jul 16, 2009, 05:32 PM // 17:32

I run the following builds on my team, my Derv is also my main, and seeing as I hit Legendary Guardian last night, these should get the job done:

Human Derv: OgGikysMdBOgxctDK6JuBf1DCA

MM Hero: OAhjUoGoITXTlTVBoBLTYMeTKgA

SS Hero: OAhkYgHcoIqTeoMYJsDYsdXV9iB

Restoration Necro: OAhjYghsoOWbMm0cyVVHmjzLGA

Or as a last resort, just run a Discord Team, guarantee that will beat it for you.