Curse

moooo566 · Jan 01, 2009, 04:56 PM // 16:56

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Originally Posted by Improvavel

The main advantage of dervishes is their avatar forms, namely melandru that can get rid of annoying conditions or dwayna for hexes. The other main advantage is that they can still do good damage in an instance another melee character would be shut due to AoE enchantments, namely [[Eternal aura] + [[Aura of holy might].

yes those are bost perfectly useful skills, but they do require work on title tracks. i have these, but before i did, i always used zealous renewal and heart of holy flame. easier to get, cheaper, no grind point farming... especially the luxon/kurzick one will take weeks unless your strange and play gw 23 hours a day

Tyla · Jan 01, 2009, 05:10 PM // 17:10

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Originally Posted by moooo566

yes those are bost perfectly useful skills, but they do require work on title tracks. i have these, but before i did, i always used zealous renewal and heart of holy flame. easier to get, cheaper, no grind point farming, absolute crap skills

Missed a point there.

Both of the aforementioned skills are absolutely fine at even rank one, if you happen to want to grind the titles (it's only grind when you're vanquishing the same area over and over or completing Factions over and over), it will get more powerful.

Darkside · Jan 03, 2009, 12:19 AM // 00:19

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Originally Posted by moooo566

yes those are bost perfectly useful skills, but they do require work on title tracks. i have these, but before i did, i always used zealous renewal and heart of holy flame. easier to get, cheaper, no grind point farming... especially the luxon/kurzick one will take weeks unless your strange and play gw 23 hours a day

[Zealous renewal] is so bad I won't even go there and [Heart of Holy Flame] is only good when you're starting out on noob island and don't have access to anything else.

Like Tyla said [Aura of Holy Might] is good even with a low allegiance rank. Even if your only rank 1 it's worth having on your bar. [Asuran Scan] is also good at low rank. No grind required to use either of these skills.

OMFGimCUTE · Jan 05, 2009, 09:39 AM // 09:39

------ Dervs might not be as good as assassins or warriors in pve and stuff but there is nothing better than Dervs in 1 on 1 matches they just rock everything and is the only reason why I have one.

MegaVolti · Jan 05, 2009, 02:44 PM // 14:44

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Originally Posted by OMFGimCUTE

------ Dervs might not be as good as assassins or warriors in pve and stuff but there is nothing better than Dervs in 1 on 1 matches they just rock everything and is the only reason why I have one.

Mesmers.
12 chars

-Lotus- · Jan 05, 2009, 03:33 PM // 15:33

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Originally Posted by MegaVolti

Mesmers.
12 chars

rangers
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Darkside · Jan 05, 2009, 05:53 PM // 17:53

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Originally Posted by OMFGimCUTE

------ Dervs might not be as good as assassins or warriors in pve and stuff but there is nothing better than Dervs in 1 on 1 matches they just rock everything and is the only reason why I have one.

Wow...just wow.

joshuarodger · Jan 05, 2009, 09:50 PM // 21:50

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Originally Posted by OMFGimCUTE

------ Dervs might not be as good as assassins or warriors in pve and stuff but there is nothing better than Dervs in 1 on 1 matches they just rock everything and is the only reason why I have one.

necro
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OMFGimCUTE · Jan 05, 2009, 10:34 PM // 22:34

Vow of Silence on mesmers or necros, Ebon Dust on rangers, wow just wow? i know right Dervs are just unstoppable

shoyon456 · Jan 05, 2009, 10:38 PM // 22:38

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Originally Posted by OMFGimCUTE

------ Dervs might not be as good as assassins or warriors in pve and stuff but there is nothing better than Dervs in 1 on 1 matches they just rock everything and is the only reason why I have one.

Wow...you disgrace the class.

OMFGimCUTE · Jan 05, 2009, 10:42 PM // 22:42

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Originally Posted by shoyon456

Wow...you disgrace the class.

i dont know how im just telling everyone how good they are

The Meth · Jan 06, 2009, 12:13 AM // 00:13

An excellent try, my trollish comrade. 10/10 for effort.

-Lotus- · Jan 06, 2009, 02:47 AM // 02:47

ill second that.

Jeydra · Jan 06, 2009, 02:59 AM // 02:59

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Originally Posted by OMFGimCUTE

Vow of Silence on mesmers or necros, Ebon Dust on rangers, wow just wow? i know right Dervs are just unstoppable

Lol there is no single build that will defeat every other. What will your Dervish do against a Mesmer or Necro with Signet of Humility, or a Ranger with a speedboost (Natural Stride) + Crippling Shot + Antidote Signet if really necessary + Rend Enchants to get rid of your heals?

Either you are trolling or you are plain acting stupid ...

Silversword22 · Jan 06, 2009, 05:26 AM // 05:26

Honestly, I never understood what role Dervish played. Sorry to you derv lovers, but Warriors, 'Sins, and even Rangers can use scythes with better IAS and tanking/evading abilities. Dervs can run places, but so can my 'Sin...Warrior...and Ranger. Dervs can run [order of pain], but my Necro can do it better.

Hmm...still trying to think of what Dervs are actually good for...

Forgotton200 · Jan 06, 2009, 05:31 AM // 05:31

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Originally Posted by Silversword22

Honestly, I never understood what role Dervish played. Sorry to you derv lovers, but Warriors, 'Sins, and even Rangers can use scythes with better IAS and tanking/evading abilities. Dervs can run places, but so can my 'Sin...Warrior...and Ranger. Dervs can run [order of pain], but my Necro can do it better.

Hmm...still trying to think of what Dervs are actually good for...

Being a dervish, I would usually defend my own profession but I honestly can't. You're exactly right unfortunately. Avatar is nice though.

shoyon456 · Jan 06, 2009, 07:09 AM // 07:09

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Originally Posted by Silversword22

Honestly, I never understood what role Dervish played. Sorry to you derv lovers, but Warriors, 'Sins, and even Rangers can use scythes with better IAS and tanking/evading abilities. Dervs can run places, but so can my 'Sin...Warrior...and Ranger. Dervs can run [order of pain], but my Necro can do it better.

Hmm...still trying to think of what Dervs are actually good for...

Well whats the use of a war, sin, or ranger? You never HAVE to use a particular class to do anything, because now there is substantial overlap so that multiple classes can do the same thing.

Sins, wars, and rangers may use scythes very well, but in PvE you cannot touch dervs. Running around in AoM being immune to all condits with a health boost permanently can't be matched. Running around in AoD gaining +50 health and loosing one hex every time I use ANY SKILL can't be matched. The same goes for Avatar of Lyssa and with the recent vamp buff to Grenth, I'm seeing some some impressive potential.

The fact is, dervs (like sins) are not a "party providing class." The only way they truly help is by dealing massive amounts of damage (yes, they do).

Wars are limited in what they can do because of energy req for attacks, Rangers can spam attacks b/c of expertise, but so can dervs if you manage your enchants, sins can crit more often than a derv with a scythe, but they generally end up taking longer to stack enchants than dervs, and dervs at least get utility dmg from them.

The only somewhat necessary class in gw is monk, and that can still be worked around, even in elite HM areas.

OMFGimCUTE · Jan 06, 2009, 08:43 AM // 08:43

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Originally Posted by Jeydra

Lol there is no single build that will defeat every other. What will your Dervish do against a Mesmer or Necro with Signet of Humility, or a Ranger with a speedboost (Natural Stride) + Crippling Shot + Antidote Signet if really necessary + Rend Enchants to get rid of your heals?

Either you are trolling or you are plain acting stupid ...

you can always interupt signet of humility sometimes i go warrior secondary, then i got wild blows for rangers so their pretty much blind and crippled at that point, then i dont mind rend enchants cause of its longer recast time you can work around it. when i play a derv i always either win or draw a tie, unless you figure out what im up or just better than me. i dont know why everyone is blowing up on me but im just telling the truth

Jeydra · Jan 06, 2009, 11:20 AM // 11:20

Tell you what then, message me in-game and we'll play a few 1v1s. Interested? I can pretty much already tell you that if I play Ranger you're not going to get close enough to Wild Blow me, and if I play Mesmer I'll carry blocks to your DShots if I have to (if you're going D/R) or fake you out (regardless of whether you're going D/R or D/Me).

Sirius-NZ · Jan 06, 2009, 09:46 PM // 21:46

1 on 1s are pretty much rock/paper/scissors anyway. It's teams where things get interesting.