Curse

Saider maul · Nov 02, 2006, 10:28 PM // 22:28

In factions the sin for me was a long awaited melee class that was poorly implimented. I expected tons of evade from the preview that we just never got and the sin became the first Melee squishie.

Well with Nightfall that has changed. Sin have their place in a battle but once they are targeted they must get out fast or listen to the screaming monk over their dead corpse. Its the constant attempt at tanking that made the sin so labeled.

With nightfall the Sin now has the ability to become a frontline dmg dealer.

Hope you enjoy...

A/D

10+2 dagger
11+3+1 critical strike
10 earth prayer

Vital Boon
Signet of Pious light
Conviction
Golden lotus strike or res sig
Unsuspecting strike
Wild strike
Critical strike
Mobious strike { E }

effectivly you have 109AL while attacking. and a chain that is near endless.

again many pvpers will hate to see this build ran as many will feel it defies what a sin should be but you will have high dps, good Emanagment, and you will be mouch more durable then assassins were before when they attempted to tank.

enjoy.

AuraofMana · Nov 02, 2006, 11:51 PM // 23:51

Good build, but Assassins were never meant to be tanks, so your statement of "squisie tanks" was inaccurate.

Saider maul · Nov 03, 2006, 02:59 AM // 02:59

i stated that a targeted sin in factions is a heavily damaged sin. with nightfall A/D has the ability to play as a tank making it easier on the monks.

A ranger was never ment to be a warrior but you see them every day. What should be and what is or can be are 2 different thing.

I never cared for the way an assassin was " supposed " to play. I prefered to play a tactical caster takedown.

Desires · Nov 03, 2006, 04:19 AM // 04:19

I just run Conviction and mystic regeneration and with a protect monk you can do whatever as while attacking your armor gets fairly high and your protect monk will give you insane regain thanks to mystic.

AuraofMana · Nov 03, 2006, 04:51 AM // 04:51

No, you were saying Assassin like its a broken melee class when it is one of the best class in the game.
Rangers actually were meant for tanking. What do you think all those Ranger defenses are for?
But yes, you are right, you should always look beyond the potential of a class to find new builds that can do stuff the class previously couldn't do before. Sorry if I sounded like I was bashing you, I really wasn't XD

kirch1jt · Nov 03, 2006, 06:13 PM // 18:13

the Sin-tank will take you down, ye be warned

Skuld · Nov 03, 2006, 07:12 PM // 19:12

Um, thumpers are/were better than W/X at their job, thats why they are run. How is an A/D better than a D/X, or even W/X?

AuraofMana · Nov 03, 2006, 10:27 PM // 22:27

Have you seen the critical damage of scythes?
A/D owns.

Saider maul · Nov 03, 2006, 10:29 PM // 22:29

lol skuld ego and arrogence blind you once again.

I am saying A/D is better class combo then most other A/X combos for those who do not play them as anet wished them to be played.
I put this up so sins who wish to tank now can WITHOUT driving the monk up a wall, sideways and insane.
personally i prefered to take out casters and stay out of main agro.
I also play a monk and most assassins drove me nuts.

and yes rangers are better thumpers but their class was not ment to be that way. Expertise allowed it to become and stay that way.

Thus the dervish skill line now allows a sin to heal extensivly and raise its armor class high enough to lower the effect of spikes it takes. This in turn allows a assassin to " tank " which it couldn't do effectivly prior to nightfall.

I am not saying the assassin was a broken class but they did lack damage managment.

Skuld · Nov 03, 2006, 10:38 PM // 22:38

WTF has that got to do with ego or arrogance? I don't care either way, its just a thought...

Sticky · Nov 04, 2006, 01:26 AM // 01:26

Ive been using something similar in PUGs the last few days:

Unsuspecting strike
Fox Fangs
Twisting Fangs
Aura of Displacement (Nobody laugh! Its saved me a lot of times!

)
Signet of Pious light
Vital Boon
Conviction
Res sig

15 Dagger Mastery
11 Critical Strikes
10 Earth Magic

I know its not the highest damage build out there but its got a great survival rate. Its pretty fun to use aswell, and at the end of the day, thats what we play the game for isnt it? Fun!

Saider maul · Nov 04, 2006, 06:24 AM // 06:24

yup. and lets just say i put this out there for my fellow monk. lol

Darkpower Alchemist · Nov 04, 2006, 06:44 AM // 06:44

Assassins are, and have always been meant to be played like hit and run attackers.

Strong,swift melee killings are the assassin's bread and butter. If they can hang in the forefront for a bit longer,more power to them, but what do you think all those shadow skills are for?

Tanking or escaping?

Yanman.be · Nov 04, 2006, 10:40 AM // 10:40

It's funny how you put the word "sintank" in a topic, and it immediately has 200+ views, more than the rest of the surrounding topics....wait..that's not funny, that's pathetic...

Saider maul · Nov 04, 2006, 12:43 PM // 12:43

lol but it does stop the greaving of a monk.

like i said many do not play a sin right. this build should help the community By removing the negative side effect of a tanking assassin.

come on now. this build takes orb for 52dmg and a ViMway dervish has yet to hit this build for more then 72 dmg one a sandstorm spike. Plus the combo is a 6 second chain with decent spammable dmg output.

Yanman.be · Nov 04, 2006, 04:24 PM // 16:24

I think you mean grief, not greav(e)?

Ok build is good, but next time, advertise as a " critical dervish using daggers "

kirch1jt · Nov 04, 2006, 05:23 PM // 17:23

na this thing can tank, its very self sufficient. High AL, self heal, ive seen this thing, its damn good

AuraofMana · Nov 04, 2006, 05:44 PM // 17:44

Quote:

I am not saying the assassin was a broken class but they did lack damage managment.

No comment.

Yanman.be · Nov 04, 2006, 05:52 PM // 17:52

I hope he means the damage you take....

Desires · Nov 04, 2006, 06:37 PM // 18:37

Really with things like conviction "their on fire" shield of absorbtion ect can make any class a tank. add in damage reduction from lightbringer and gg.