Curse

White Head Yeti · Jan 11, 2007, 01:47 PM // 13:47

Please comment my new build since i added nightfall skill makes it far better from old one. This have increased dmg,conditions like crippled and teleporting..

Its good if only you know how to use neutrality skill,(one from the end on right side)

My last build didnt have healing or sutch thing

Btw hp is around 500,with superior vigor,i think its 475 maybe

Requirments: Icy daggers - so it interrupts everything including melee attacks like gash...quivering blade silverwing...EVERYTHING

Yanman.be · Jan 11, 2007, 03:14 PM // 15:14

Attributes are too much spread out. Why don't you drop Shadow Prison and take another elite ( Not in deadly arts ).

onerabbit · Jan 11, 2007, 03:18 PM // 15:18

Ditto OP

doesnt look to bad though, im no pvp expert..but guessing its for pvp? :S

kKagari · Jan 11, 2007, 03:22 PM // 15:22

its kinda energy intensive...by the time u interrupt 2 skills, spinal shivers makes u lose about 12-14, and ur probably left doing regular hits and out of energy to finish off your combo quickly. the twisting fangs is probably the main problem. how about black lotus strike?

Jetdoc · Jan 11, 2007, 04:11 PM // 16:11

Energy is definitely the weakness in this build - after a few hits, I bet Shivers has drained your energy.

Sqube · Jan 11, 2007, 08:35 PM // 20:35

[skill=text]Critical Eye[/skill] maybe? You need something to counteract all the energy that this build is going to be eating up.

Definitely an original build, definitely a PvP spiking build. I like it though.

And kKagari... Black Lotus Strike is on that bar. Check skill slot 5: [skill=text]Black Lotus Strike[/skill].

jesh · Jan 13, 2007, 09:02 AM // 09:02

What about running 13 CS with no Deadly Arts, and changing your elite to Way of the Assassin?

Skuld · Jan 13, 2007, 01:42 PM // 13:42

Um, why? temple strike!

Yanman.be · Jan 13, 2007, 03:06 PM // 15:06

Skuld teh energy's. Sure, you have a nice way of interrupting...but...daze + shivers = bye bye energy

Ser Jaremy Ryker · Jan 13, 2007, 03:45 PM // 15:45

I made a spinal shiver warrior once that was kind of fun. For e-management I used warrior's endurance (+3e with each hit). This more than compensates for the energy usage of spinal shivers (you only loose energy when a skill is interrupted - not with every hit). All of the attack skills were adrenal to.
Unfortunately, in pvp with the warrior not being as mobile as a sin, most good targets were able to kite when I slapped on spinal shivers.

jesh · Jan 13, 2007, 09:38 PM // 21:38

Another skill that might work would be [skill]Zealous Vow[/skill].
Thing is.. you can't use it on a A/N. *shrug*

hondy · Jan 14, 2007, 03:23 AM // 03:23

You'll find shadow prison a rather useless move since Spinal Shivers can activate all your hex required spells. If your looking for a cover hex however, parastic bond is your friend.

You'll also probably find that if your disrupting well your not going to need to inflict all these conditions. However if I was playing my mesmer I would be scared out of my wits with a disrupt a second with poison and bleeding on me. What your looking for however, is a steady energy growth per hit.

I wouldn't mind seeing a similar deverish/necromancer build using Grenth's form for cold damage, but I doubt most of the deverish energy management skills could hold much better then an assassins.

jesh · Jan 15, 2007, 10:10 AM // 10:10

*looks up at my last post*
Zealous Vow and a zealous weapon can meet the cost of Spinal Shivers indefinitely. You obviously lose attack speed though, with a D/N.

Alpha Of Terror · Jan 15, 2007, 06:05 PM // 18:05

OR - R/N
Spinal + Marksman Wager + Tigers Fury/Hekets Rampage

jesh · Jan 15, 2007, 09:02 PM // 21:02

The attack speed of a bow is even worse than that of a scythe.. you want it as high as possible in order to interrupt the most. That's why an assassin would be ideal. You have a 1.33 sec weapon and double strikes from your weapon mastery attribute.

SotiCoto · Jan 21, 2007, 02:13 PM // 14:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

Skuld teh energy's. Sure, you have a nice way of interrupting...but...daze + shivers = bye bye energy

Assassin's Promise maybe?

StarFish · Jan 22, 2007, 12:15 PM // 12:15

hey Ive tried this build out and I must say... GJ!

but like most allrdy said, it can be better like another elite or mabey without it...

This is what I use:

Shivers of Dead/Spinal Shivers
Leaping Mantis Sting
Wild Strike
Blades of Steel (can b used for 80 bonus dam now!)
Black Lotus Strike
Dash
Shadow Refuge
Res Signet

What? no elite? =) If u dont need it, leave it.

Stats:

Dagger Mastery 10+1+1 [12]
Shadow Arts 7+1 [8]
Critical Strikes 7+1 [8]
Curses 11

510hp No Vigor rune, 42 energy (shrouded armour, +5 energy daggers, 2 runes of Attunement)

well no energy problems at all

SotiCoto · Jan 22, 2007, 04:41 PM // 16:41

... Meh.

I'd switch the Res Signet for Assassin's Promise personally... and it could work as a cover-hex besides... (never been fond of Res Sig, though some people are)....

Additionally... while I can appreciate the particular strengths of the Leaping Mantis Sting in preventing kiting.... I've noticed since the skill changes of the weekend that Jagged Strike (the standard cheaparse lead attack) works quite nicely with Ulcerous Lungs for an extra -4 health degen (and additional cover hex), if you can really be bothered. You'd be using Curses anyway... right? O'course then energy might become even more of an issue... but.... meh... there are always ways around that (such as jagged-striking everyone in the area while they're still hexed with the lungs to avoid having to cast it again, though thats not smart solo tactics... If the others get hit with bleeding by someone else or by using a shout or chant its just an added bonus).

StarFish · Jan 22, 2007, 06:15 PM // 18:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by SotiCoto

Additionally... while I can appreciate the particular strengths of the Leaping Mantis Sting in preventing kiting.... I've noticed since the skill changes of the weekend that Jagged Strike (the standard cheaparse lead attack) works quite nicely with Ulcerous Lungs for an extra -4 health degen (and additional cover hex), if you can really be bothered. You'd be using Curses anyway... right? O'course then energy might become even more of an issue... but.... meh... there are always ways around that (such as jagged-striking everyone in the area while they're still hexed with the lungs to avoid having to cast it again, though thats not smart solo tactics... If the others get hit with bleeding by someone else or by using a shout or chant its just an added bonus).

sounds great but seeping wound would be better thn cause its low energy cost and -3 degen... oh yeah its an hex 2

so u never use a res signet? ^^

SotiCoto · Jan 22, 2007, 06:58 PM // 18:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarFish

sounds great but seeping wound would be better thn cause its low energy cost and -3 degen... oh yeah its an hex 2

so u never use a res signet? ^^

Unfortunately I don't know too much about single-target Curses. I've decked my pseudo-SS build out with AoE hexes, so I pretty much only know about them... ^_^;;

And no.... I don't use a Res Signet.
I use 3 or 4 monks, all with res skills.
Thats easily enough Resurrection for one party... or at least until I can be bothered to deck a hero out with Ritualist skills (since some of them are da bomb for resurrection).
It saves me having to waste even a single slot on my skill-bar.