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Jin_Kazaa · Feb 11, 2007, 01:40 AM // 01:40

Hey guys im new here and just wanted to post an
Assassin builds that in my opinion is pretty good, so please leave your comment and suggest anything that might help thanks.

Profession: Assassin/Elementalist

Name: No Name

Type: CompetitivePvP/GeneralPvP

Category: Damage/Interrupt

Attributes:
Dagger Mastery:10+2+1
Critical Strike:10+2
Shadow Arts:5+3
Water Magic:10

Skills Set:
1)Shadow Refuge
2)Golden Phoenix Strike
3)Horns of The Ox
4)Falling Spider
5)Twisting Fang
6)Moebius Strike
7)Conjure Frost
8)Ressurect Signet

Equipment:
Icy Oni Daggers Of Fortitude
7-17(9 Dagger Mastery)
Damage +15%^While Enchanted
Customized

Armour:
-Bladed Mask:+1 Dagger Mastery
-Valkyrie Chest:+15 Health
-Sabateur Gloves:Armor +10 (vs. physical damage)
Armor +10 (vs. Slashing damage)
-Valkyrie Legs:+10 Health
-Sabateur Legs:Armor +10 (vs. physical damage)
Armor +10 (vs. Slashing damage)

Runes:
-Major Critical Strike
-Major Dagger Mastery
-Superior Shadow Arts

Weakness:
-Major Health Degen
-Interrupt
-Enchantment Removal
-Evasive Stance

Credit: I credit who ever came up with this build IMHO its the best.

Sorry if this has been posted already.

shaderaven · Feb 11, 2007, 07:34 AM // 07:34

Good for what? Sertanly not for PvP. It does't have neither a snare, nor a speedboost and the knockdown comes after the second non-IASed attack. If your conjure frost is dispelled you will be worse than 8 Beastmastery pet with no pet skills. Every time you cast shadow refuge you will be kited untill its over and then beaten senceless when you can't connect your golden phoenix strike. And seeing how it has 0 deffence skills...
Even if your golden phoenix DOES connect and you are not kitted every single deffence skill (that other people actually have in their builds) will ruin your chain (and you don't have any backup one)... blind, knockdown, blocking stance, simply running away.

For PvE monsters die pretty often so you wont always have the opportunity to refresh your attacks with Moebius, also you have no energy management so will run out of steam pretty fast after GPS>TF>MS>GPS>TF>MS while hopping to catch one of them away from the others and not running (as the casters that will actually stay away from the others will do). And if there is adequat enchantment removal with the monsters killer timing...you will have 0 skills you can use, unless someone is knockdowning for you or someone is dead so you can ress him. Oh, and as I mentioned you have 0 deffence skills so you will be eaten allive at fisrt opportunity.

Also 10 water magic only for conjure frost on assassin is more than a waste of attributes.

I'm not the best assassin there is, but if you at least give me some pointers for what you want to use your build - I'll do my best to help.

Yanman.be · Feb 11, 2007, 09:29 AM // 09:29

If you want a good constant enchantment on you, I advise Illusion of Weakness.

Chamber Asgardian · Feb 11, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00

Umm, what made you think this was the best assassin build, b/c it pretty much sucks. I don't see any reason to use conjure frost except for use with GPS, but even then why would u waste precious attribute pts on skill that has no use to an assassin watsoever. Conjures are only good for constant dps, and being that your an assassin you shouldn't be in there that long for it to be effective. You might as well just use AoD+GPS at least you have a teleport to get in and out. Our skills already give us +armor ignoring dmg and Conjure Frost helps very little, its just a waste of a slot. If you want to moebius something why wont you get a better skill bar like shock+falling spider+HoTo+Moebius+ TF at least you'll have constant kd's, or just use the BoA SP sin. You could use that yangansin too or watever its called, it has better defense than this, even though it's not to my liking, I still find it way better than this build. Again what made you thing a crappy build like this is the best?

Master Ketsu · Feb 11, 2007, 10:30 PM // 22:30

Lots of problems with that build

1.depending on shadow refuge to get golden off is a BAD idea. Use something that lasts.

2.Moebius strike is wasted here since by the time you finish that combo you will have lost all your energy. The point of moebius is to spam a combo, make it recharge something like Black lotus strike and put in a usefull hex to go with it. that way you wont be useless while your energy recharges.

3.No Speed buff / shadow step = your just waiting to get hammered and die by a ranger or ele, or kited by any monk that has half a brain.

ensoriki · Feb 12, 2007, 01:52 AM // 01:52

The only good conjure
Is conjure of Flame
And you use it with Locust fury

Chamber Asgardian · Feb 12, 2007, 05:37 AM // 05:37

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The only good conjure
Is conjure of Flame
And you use it with Locust fury

That is definitely a ?!?wtf?!? statement. Last time I checked all conjures have the same amt of dmg bonus at the same lvl's the only difference is the type of elemental dmg done. What do you mean conjure of flame is the only good one? Do you even know what your talking about? Locust fury is crap btw, it's definitely a crappy skill, why the hell would an assassin just stay in combat and autoattack his freaking target. Do you want to die.

SotiCoto · Feb 12, 2007, 11:52 AM // 11:52

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Originally Posted by Chamber Asgardian

That is definitely a ?!?wtf?!? statement. Last time I checked all conjures have the same amt of dmg bonus at the same lvl's the only difference is the type of elemental dmg done. What do you mean conjure of flame is the only good one? Do you even know what your talking about? Locust fury is crap btw, it's definitely a crappy skill, why the hell would an assassin just stay in combat and autoattack his freaking target. Do you want to die.

Conjure Flame + Mark of Rodgort... I believe is what he meant.
Even then I suppose its kinda superfluous since the fire damage being done anyway is enough for the status effect.

As for Locust's Fury... I only found one possible use for it so far:

Zenmai => Locust's Fury
Me => Illusionary Weaponry + Arcane Mimicry.
[i.e. An Assassin doesn't need combos to do lots of unconditional damage.]

Sqube · Feb 16, 2007, 06:32 PM // 18:32

Conjure Flame isn't the only good Conjure. Guild Wars is a team-based game, so use some team-based synergy.

Conjure Frost + Battery Necro + Spinal Shivers Necro means that the guy you're hitting will be able to do... nothing.

elektra_lucia · Feb 20, 2007, 02:50 PM // 14:50

Lol I rage quit my guild yesturday beause of assassin skills ^^.

Shadow prison is alright for spiking but there really is better skills than that.

Exhaust assault is nice.

Death blossom is pretty good now the buff... Blades of steel really is not that good, if you think of how many skills are recharging (and sometimes not all will be recharging).

I like leaping mantis, jungle, ox, spider, frenzy, twisting fangs, skull crack, rush

The5thSeraph · Feb 20, 2007, 03:09 PM // 15:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sqube

Conjure Flame isn't the only good Conjure. Guild Wars is a team-based game, so use some team-based synergy.

Conjure Frost + Battery Necro + Spinal Shivers Necro means that the guy you're hitting will be able to do... nothing.

... But it works without Conjure Frost... which if I rightly recall only makes any difference if you're already doing Cold Damage.

elektra_lucia · Feb 20, 2007, 03:20 PM // 15:20

Wait wait wait, "Conjure Frost + Battery Necro + Spinal Shivers Necro means that the guy you're hitting will be able to do... nothing."

You are serious? You use, two or three players to disable one player? In the hope that there's no holy veil, or hex removal? Wowwwww : o. lol^^.

The5ThSeraph, why are you even debating that? It's retarded lol^^.

The5thSeraph · Feb 20, 2007, 04:32 PM // 16:32

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Originally Posted by elektra_lucia

You are serious? You use, two or three players to disable one player? In the hope that there's no holy veil, or hex removal? Wowwwww : o. lol^^.

The5ThSeraph, why are you even debating that? It's retarded lol^^.

Because I save such comments only for those who really deserve them... like people who end a sentence in "lol", screw up capitalisation and add superfluous characters all over the place.

Oh... and one word for you:

Glint.

Kiba of hidden leaf · Feb 20, 2007, 09:01 PM // 21:01

ummm, seraph, you mean capitalization?

im on your side though...

Yanman.be · Feb 20, 2007, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Kiba, like you do, not using CaPiTaLs at all.

Kiba of hidden leaf · Feb 20, 2007, 11:36 PM // 23:36

ALL YOU DO IS MAKE FUN OF GRAMMAR WHEN YOU COULD BE HELPING.

Happy?

Master Ketsu · Feb 21, 2007, 06:15 AM // 06:15

Dont make fun of grammar if it isnt a huge problem....its just dumb.

Lord Nibiru · Feb 21, 2007, 10:29 AM // 10:29

Like many peoples says: people from UK and SAD are only good in english,in all other thing they are s***id.
I though they are wrong,but now I see it is very true for many players in Guild Wars and many people outside it.They just talk,talk,and talk,and make fun from other grammar,but they even don't know where is Croatia!! Ha!!

p.s. not many peoples from UK and SAD are s***id,but many are.I am sorry for some people that are really kind and smart enough not to make fun of some1 because his grammar.

Croatian,like Japan language are the hardest one,their grammar is hardest one,English is nothing,so don't think you are something special because you talk English since you are born!

Yanman.be · Feb 21, 2007, 10:58 AM // 10:58

Croatian is just as hard as any other slavic language. I know where Croatia is. My English spelling is near-perfect. Your point?

elektra_lucia · Feb 21, 2007, 11:09 AM // 11:09

Point taken. What I mean was, debating about things when someone has mentioned using three characters to kill one character seems a bit silly to me. The bit about lol was just showing I find the humour in it.

Quote:

Because I save such comments only for those who really deserve them... like people who end a sentence in "lol", screw up capitalisation and add superfluous characters all over the place.

Oh... and one word for you:

Glint.

As we're onto grammar now. You should not start a sentence with because. The three dots after 'them' isn't needed. Followed by like is also bad grammar. The three dots after 'oh' isn't needed. Starting the next sentence with 'and' is also bad grammar. Having glint on a new line, new paragraph is also wrong.

''It's retarded L.O.L'' would of been alright English, you've got me though. I shouldn't of added these characters '^^'; however, putting more mistakes into your post in some atteempt to remain superior when I wasn't even flaming you looks kind of retarded to me.

For the ''capitalisation'' part as you call it ( ell oh ell ), you forgot to cap the L in ''like''.

Someone that states they can lock down a player with three other players is like someone that states the moon is made of cheese, there is no point in bothering to argue with it. It is silly and also funny; however, thanks for your attempt at trying to out smart me. You failed.

I'm quite sure I made many mistakes writing this post. Some being grammar, spelling etc. I really do not care. All I'm trying to point out is that you trying to win the argument by bringing grammar into it won't because a) your grammar is bad and b) you've gone completely off topic. Maybe you thought I was talking about grammar to begin with, who knows. For your benefit I've tried to explain things better too.

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Like many peoples says: people from UK and SAD are only good in english,in all other thing they are s***id.

Well I speak five other languages. I guess it's nice of you to bring race into it. I know you are going to say UK isn't a race and think only colour is; however, you'd be wrong.

I'm quite confused now, maybe you guys thought I was bringing grammar into it... I wasn't. This is what I was thinking. Someone is using a whole army to kill one person.

Quote:

Croatian,like Japan language are the hardest one,their grammar is hardest one,English is nothing,so don't think you are something special because you talk English since you are born!

You're wrong.

Quote:

but they even don't know where is Croatia!! Ha!!

Point taken. Maybe that's because they don't do much in the world and have never done much in the world. I can't really say I know much about Croatia infact the most I know is that they probably arn't as well off as the people where I live. Doesn't change the fact using three players to kill one is retarded lol^^.