Curse

Diddy bow · Dec 24, 2006, 11:34 PM // 23:34

im sooooo trying this, just hope damage isnt a problem

Shuuda · Dec 25, 2006, 11:20 AM // 11:20

Nice build, I must try it, I was also thinking, could you use deadly paradox to half shadow forms recharege, to do Deadly paradox - Shadow form - echoed SF - Shadow form?

Morgoth the dark · Dec 25, 2006, 11:29 AM // 11:29

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Originally Posted by Made In Ascalon

Ectos don't drop in FoW.

hmm so where the hell i got one?
oh yea i know - banshee

Flightmare · Dec 25, 2006, 01:04 PM // 13:04

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

Nice build, I must try it, I was also thinking, could you use deadly paradox to half shadow forms recharege, to do Deadly paradox - Shadow form - echoed SF - Shadow form?

Deadly paradox is a stance, wich will cancel shadow of haste and you will get teleported back.

Shuuda · Dec 25, 2006, 01:14 PM // 13:14

and what if you could keep shadow form up all the time, there would be no need to shadow of haste.

Flightmare · Dec 25, 2006, 01:51 PM // 13:51

well that's the whole point I've been thinking around the last few days, I haven't found a solution yet, for now on it only worked if my buddy brought quickening zephir with him and serpent's quickness ands keeps the spirit up somewhere out of reach.

z1pp3r · Dec 25, 2006, 06:09 PM // 18:09

A/me + E/x it is Assassin tanks all the time (doesn't need shadow haste and dash) and Elementalist with his fire magic does dupa wupa. Assassin can help ele with some attacking skills like dancing daggers etc. Gonna test it just when i buy shrouded armor.

Ahrims Assassin · Dec 25, 2006, 06:37 PM // 18:37

Ok I have a few questions about this build:
1. How many enemies, on average, can you kill with 50 seconds of shadow form?
2. Are there any other places you can use this?
3. How many rounds of the attack combo does it usually take to kill an enemy?
Also very nice looking build, can't wait to try it with my sin.

TheRanger · Dec 25, 2006, 06:42 PM // 18:42

No Deadly Paradox?

Skuld · Dec 25, 2006, 07:09 PM // 19:09

paradox disables attack skills, I guess he wants to kill stuff?

Ruricu · Dec 25, 2006, 07:10 PM // 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shuuda

Nice build, I must try it, I was also thinking, could you use deadly paradox to half shadow forms recharege, to do Deadly paradox - Shadow form - echoed SF - Shadow form?

Deadly Paradox disables your attack skills... You might be able to stay in there indefinitely, but you wouldn't do any damage.

EDIT: Guess Skuld posted as I was writing mine. ^^

darkrawlinson · Dec 25, 2006, 10:31 PM // 22:31

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Originally Posted by z1pp3r

A/me + E/x it is Assassin tanks all the time (doesn't need shadow haste and dash) and Elementalist with his fire magic does dupa wupa. Assassin can help ele with some attacking skills like dancing daggers etc. Gonna test it just when i buy shrouded armor.

ders somefin better dan fire eles.... and dats earth ele.... with sliver armor and shadow form its a fast ko... with an aoe spell as well... so heres a good build, take d earth ele, sliver armor build with sf to tombs and bam bam be happy =] just remember to use shadow of haste and pop back out incase u dont kill d whole aggro...

darkrawlinson · Dec 25, 2006, 10:33 PM // 22:33

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Originally Posted by Ahrims Assassin

Ok I have a few questions about this build:
1. How many enemies, on average, can you kill with 50 seconds of shadow form?
2. Are there any other places you can use this?
3. How many rounds of the attack combo does it usually take to kill an enemy?
Also very nice looking build, can't wait to try it with my sin.

1.on average a sin attack an aggro without a grasp of insanity can kill about two monsters and take one into half-life. if der is a grasp den u can kill 1 and take anoder to half-life. like i said its very tedious...
2.so far i found one in elona, but im not gonna release dat yet... i still need to find if i can do better
3. i think it takes 3 rounds of combos or probably 4

Swame Rain · Dec 25, 2006, 10:44 PM // 22:44

Yes...ectos drop in FoW..but really rare..i got one last year. I think it was from a Banshee...past the Forest area.

Nice little build i'll have to give it a shot..thanks for the cool post Rawleson...I've been using shadowform/sliver for green farming..never thought about doing tombs or any are with attack skills and shadow form...guess i better get my sin to tombs area and give it a shot.

There is a way to keep shadow form up all the time with a mesmer skill...so maybe two sins could do whole area? I'd have to look up the skill...i've heard of people doing it in PVP.

ecknine · Dec 25, 2006, 11:59 PM // 23:59

ok , got my siN True tyria and to tombs , now im going to bed but i will surely do it tommorow with u Rawl . see ya later

~silent ecknine

darkrawlinson · Dec 26, 2006, 01:03 AM // 01:03

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Originally Posted by Swame Rain

Yes...ectos drop in FoW..but really rare..i got one last year. I think it was from a Banshee...past the Forest area.

Nice little build i'll have to give it a shot..thanks for the cool post Rawleson...I've been using shadowform/sliver for green farming..never thought about doing tombs or any are with attack skills and shadow form...guess i better get my sin to tombs area and give it a shot.

There is a way to keep shadow form up all the time with a mesmer skill...so maybe two sins could do whole area? I'd have to look up the skill...i've heard of people doing it in PVP.

thanks for the compliment =].. uh if u do find out what it is to keep sf up pls tell us.. itd brighten d light more lolx... ok folks ill post d guide on how to pass stage two....

darkrawlinson · Dec 26, 2006, 03:25 AM // 03:25

THE HOW TO PASS STAGE 2 tOMBS SIN STYLE
(unless you got 2hours of free time, then you cant pass this if you are soloing)

PASSING STAGE 2: Part 1 of 2--sectors 1 and 2

PASSING 2-1

The red dots in the picture indicates where you need to activate ur shadow haste. The reason for this is to avoid mob detection. Therefore unless you are too cool to die, I suggest using the indicated area.

The colors indicate groups of mobs and here is the color order in which you have to follow.
Color Order:
1-blue
2-green
3-yellow
4-purple/pink
1-this mob consist of dream riders and terror webs. I suggest killing terrorwebs first due to the fact they are bleed-able.
2-This mob consist of scythes and grasps. There will be a ton of grasps so, watch careful on ur bar, dont over do too much with your combos. In here you should kill all grasps of insanities first then go for scythes. You as a sin can only kill one grasp of insanity within a 40sec sf due to energy sucking from Grasps.
3-same as 1
4-same as 2
*note*there is a high likeable chance dat you will aggro groups 2-4 so be very careful with energy, be alert dat there are alot of grasps on you.

After killing these 4 mobs, you have to kill the group found south. there are pop ups of grasps of insanity. I suggest you start in the middle where the tortured soul spawns.

Vaula you have passed area 2-1

PASSING stage 2-2

Here I've indicated markings.

Gray line-Its below the baby-blue dots, which makes it look like a face... Here is where you start inorder to kill the lime-green pop up and blue mob.

Light blue dot- This spot is where you activate shadow of haste when you are killing the worms.

Pink/Purple line-This is the bottom of the stair. before you cross the point you should activate your sf cus beyond here the left wurm can feel you.

Yellow dots-popping wurms

light green-pop ups

blue dot- patrol consists of grasps and scythes

red dot-duh thats a group

*NOTE*-wurms can't feel you when u port out, therefore they wont chase you
-always kill grasps of insanities first

HOw to pass:
1. activate the left pop up. kill the graspsin that pop up group.
*note*wurm will attack you, when he pop ups u lose balance and take 30 damage. Just get the grasps within your aggro bubble and if wurms pops up stay still and let grasps come.

2.kill blue patrol
Same with 1

3.kill left wurm
How to kill wurm: first head over to light blue dot. activate shadow of haste. Cast Echo, head a little up over barney line. Stand still, wurm pops up, cast sf, attack with all your might. Port out, and rinse. This will take about 4 times doing over and over.

4.Aggro pop up group. Kill red group and pop up. Read step 1 and 2

5.Kill wurm:read step 4.

And vaula you have just cleared Area 2-2

*****sorry I didnt take much pictures... I'll post 2-3 and 2-4 soon, I passed dem but ddint take pics

And this is Random Arena Irl

And this is where we went after my sin got bored farming tombs

bwaahahahah im bored

Glider of chaos · Dec 26, 2006, 06:16 AM // 06:16

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

... could you use deadly paradox to half shadow forms recharege, to do Deadly paradox - Shadow form - echoed SF - Shadow form?

Tried this idea long ago for the running build...
Basicly the answer is "yes, you can do it but SF won't last forever anyway."

Using Deadly Paradox you cut SF recarge to 30 secs but Arcane Echo is replaced by SF for 20 secs. So you go like that:
1st step: SF
2nd step: echoed SF
3rd step: SF
4th step: ... 50HP. (You can't cast echoed SF coz it turns back into actaully... Arcane Echo and is recharging currently.)

Bottom line: Deadly paradox allows you to maintain SF for ~60 secs instead of 40 secs but you still need to go dual sin SF to maintain it forever...

darkrawlinson · Dec 26, 2006, 07:49 AM // 07:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glider of chaos

Tried this idea long ago for the running build...
Basicly the answer is "yes, you can do it but SF won't last forever anyway."

Using Deadly Paradox you cut SF recarge to 30 secs but Arcane Echo is replaced by SF for 20 secs. So you go like that:
1st step: SF
2nd step: echoed SF
3rd step: SF
4th step: ... 50HP. (You can't cast echoed SF coz it turns back into actaully... Arcane Echo and is recharging currently.)

Bottom line: Deadly paradox allows you to maintain SF for ~60 secs instead of 40 secs but you still need to go dual sin SF to maintain it forever...

going farther to what he said.. u can keep sf to over 70secs.. with the use of another sin and arcane mimicry one can hold sf very long.... but people!!!! remember this... its not being invincible its about panning in damage while ur in that form. NO matter how we look at it a sin can hold only 35 energy, sf needs 10 energy and mimicry along with echo needs 15 energy plus the stance dats 5 energy... if we take this into battle the likable chance that we can gain energy from attacking is none at all... we cant complete a combo thus we are utterly useless...

ecknine · Dec 26, 2006, 12:46 PM // 12:46

Yeah rawl it went ok w/ me , i cleared first area and 2-1 but then ...
i was doing ok but suddenly out of nowhere2 fat wurms just took me down ...ah well , here some screens of my run : Area 1 was Easy !
Area 2 started great w/ a req 9 Golden Stormbow
some friends ask me if i do enough damage ...*cough*morons*cough*

thats not a problem so after an hour and a half of hard ninja style fighting my friends C0ck and Sucker came along and wrecked me -__- i Don't like them

Sorry if pics are too big , color is wrong , bla bla bla ...i was messing around
Voila , my Try at Tombs ...better luck next time
~ecknine