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Issac · Aug 22, 2007, 02:16 PM // 14:16

I was thinking about making an assassin but wasn't to sure. I was wondering whats their overall view. Are they acceptable in most groups. I know their good in pvp, but I was wondering what about in pve, will I be accepted into groups in pve?

Sawamura · Aug 22, 2007, 02:21 PM // 14:21

I'd say 'Yes, make that sin'. But realise that there's more to it then shadow stepping in, tanking 5+ crits and coming out alive. It requires some skill & intellect. If you get the hang of it and have a decent setup you'll find that groups that take will be very satisfied with you.

People do like to pick other classes above the sins tho. But Hero/Hench is a perfect solution for that !

Issac · Aug 22, 2007, 02:26 PM // 14:26

Thanks, I do know theirs more to a profession then meets the eye lol. Thats how I set up my warrior and he does great. Im not no wammo lol. I was thinking of some other builds I could make with a sin so it will be kind of versatile.

Cerethien · Aug 22, 2007, 05:02 PM // 17:02

well,assassin is probably the hardest character to play.Not because he is weak,as they say,it have few awesome builds:Its because everybody hate assassins,as they think that they die too often.So,rarely they will invite you into some good group,cause people thinks that every playedr who play assassin s*xs.
In my opinion,play it if u think that u r mature player who will know how to play assassin,not to rush into mob,assassins r not that type of character,warriors are.
I play assassin,and it is most interesting character for me(and monk)

But,the truth is,it will not be so easy.

Cathode_Reborn · Aug 22, 2007, 09:11 PM // 21:11

The average pug still doesn't really enjoy having an assassin.

That doesn't mean anything though. They provide the highest armor-ignoring damage out of all melee classes. Death Blossom + Moebius + Crit Agility has made assassins one of the best melee classes in pve. That might be the highest DPS in the game.

Obviously to play each class to it's fullest potential, you need to have all 3 chapters. Crit Agility was a massive buff to pve sins. Besides being the only ias for sins, it can give upto 25+al. Combined with Nightstalker's you can get 110al, which beats a warrior's ele resistance. Only downside are disenchantments.

So yes, they're very great in pve. But, the average pve'er still doesn't know that so don't expect pugs to be looking for sins. People still seem to prefer having a warrior on the team, even if the person playing it happens to suck badly.

Yanman.be · Aug 22, 2007, 09:13 PM // 21:13

Even I bumped into some total retards in Gate of Pain.

Them: "glf 5/8 self invite"
*invites myself*
Them: "haha u suck" " u play assassin"
*they fill their spots with a whammo and 2 hero monks.

Then I just grabbed some henchies and heroes and did the mission myself.

Stormlord Alex · Aug 22, 2007, 10:01 PM // 22:01

Yeah, sure, make an assassin ^_^

Finding PuGs can be a bitch, but it's no biggie - most PuGs are complete retards anyway

they work well enough in PvE, stuff like Death blossom is really strong, especially vs. high-armour mobs - most of a 'sins damage ignores armour.
Besides... you can always delete if you don't like it.

Oh, and for end-game stuff - I'm not sure.

But, my Alliance is organizing a trip to DoA (finally!) sometime soon, we're gonna try out all kinds of stuff, including a Shadow Form tank.

Bowstring Badass · Aug 22, 2007, 11:42 PM // 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

Even I bumped into some total retards in Gate of Pain.

Them: "glf 5/8 self invite"
*invites myself*
Them: "haha u suck" " u play assassin"
*they fill their spots with a whammo and 2 hero monks.

Then I just grabbed some henchies and heroes and did the mission myself.

Don't worry yan happens to me all the time.

Dr Strangelove · Aug 23, 2007, 12:31 AM // 00:31

Ask yourself, though. Did you really want to play with the power attack/healing breeze team?

jesh · Aug 23, 2007, 01:06 AM // 01:06

I like to run through the miasma and spread it to everyone. It's funny when the monk complains he can't healing breeze everyone.

.. I mean.
I don't enjoy other people's suffering!

P.S.: You can't poke too much fun at power attack anymore.. it's actually decent on an otherwise all adrenaline warrior.

Chamber Asgardian · Aug 23, 2007, 02:10 AM // 02:10

Here's a great PvE build for all the chapters, however you'll need all three Campaigns. I've managed to beat the campaigns easily with this build. This can be used at end game too and does really well in the Ring of Fire, end game Cantha and Elona when you reach the Gate of Madness

1)Golden Phoenix Strike
2)Critical Strike
3)Moebius Strike
4)Death Blossom
5)Critical Agility
6)Vital Boon
7)Mystic Regeration
8)Dash/Res Signet

Just keep up the enchantments during the battle and do the chain. And whenever you feel your taking to much damage just move away from the battle and go back for a quick heal from the monks. I highly doubt you'll have trouble healing though with Mystic Regeneration giving you 9 pips of regeration.

Yanman.be · Aug 23, 2007, 07:47 AM // 07:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

Ask yourself, though. Did you really want to play with the power attack/healing breeze team?

I was curious...

Sawamura · Aug 23, 2007, 09:50 AM // 09:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Yeah, sure, make an assassin ^_^
...
Oh, and for end-game stuff - I'm not sure.

But, my Alliance is organizing a trip to DoA (finally!) sometime soon, we're gonna try out all kinds of stuff, including a Shadow Form tank.

A Shadow Form Tank pwns all other types of tanks if you have SF + SB on.

Too bad the Assassin is still the least wanted profession, and I'm afraid it'll keep being like this, unless GW:EN causes sins to be the most wanted type all of a sudden

Cerethien · Aug 23, 2007, 10:28 AM // 10:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

Even I bumped into some total retards in Gate of Pain.

Them: "glf 5/8 self invite"
*invites myself*
Them: "haha u suck" " u play assassin"
*they fill their spots with a whammo and 2 hero monks.

Then I just grabbed some henchies and heroes and did the mission myself.

Bah!hate that.

I was also having problems with finding party.So i was doing with henchies,or heroes,exept few missions.

craigrs84 · Aug 23, 2007, 07:30 PM // 19:30

if any sins want to group up in doa i think that would be fun. i don't have much experience at all in doa because no one would ever let me group with them and my sin is my main pve char.

Issac · Aug 23, 2007, 08:06 PM // 20:06

Thx for all the replies, I think I am going to make a sin, I just need o get the name that I want lol.

Abedeus · Aug 23, 2007, 08:49 PM // 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Yeah, sure, make an assassin ^_^

Finding PuGs can be a bitch, but it's no biggie - most PuGs are complete retards anyway

Try to find a PuG with a Mesmer... During my whole Mesmer playtime I found only one (!!!) person that wanted to do a mission with me... But using D/A with Shadow Prison in PvE isn't ftw. So I did the mission myself, Masters. It was Nundu Bay.
Strange, eh? I do Master's Rewards' even easier than at monk or ranger. I guess that you should make Assassin - I bet it'll be just with me, maybe you will meet a retarded PuGs (I mean - I never found a normal PuG, except for DoA teams, but if someone can get there, he isn't a noob), but you will do missions extra-fast and easier than with other characters. Plus, you can use the safest Tombs/FoW/anything farmer in the whole Guild Wars.

Coloneh · Aug 24, 2007, 04:24 AM // 04:24

theres a reason people dont want mesmers in their group. most people realized it a long time ago.

classes with a primary attribute > classes without a primary attribute

arsie · Aug 24, 2007, 04:59 AM // 04:59

In Normal mode, the exception of maybe one or two missions per campaign, players are usually not stretched to their limits, it doesn't really matter which damage causing professions you are.

For Elite missions and Hard mode, competent and experienced players are more valuable than inexperienced people playing the right build.

Too bad PuGs don't feel that way. So packing your own Heroes helps. They can be as good as or better than your average PuGs at what they do.

SotiCoto · Aug 24, 2007, 11:24 AM // 11:24

Make an Assassin if you want things a bit more complicated and are ok with it.

As for finding a party.... odd as it may sound, having a nice title and a set of 15k armour helps. And make sure you can demonstrate on a whim that you know what you're talking about with an air of authority. I haven't really had any trouble getting groups when I try.... The 15k Kurzick armour and KoaBD title help, but ultimately it falls down to attitude.

I got my team for Gate of Madness by explaining to them that I had a build primed for taking down Shiro... and gave a little explanation of how.

It does help if you don't try to team up with complete idiots though.