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Aug 25, 2007, 01:58 PM // 13:58
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Behind you...
Profession: A/
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Be warned: once you've gone into Critical Agility, it's basically impossible to come back out.
Also, having your heroes attack someone else diverts attention. Then while attention is diverted, you dive in and kill the enemy monk. You're definitely going to take less damage because the support network is gone. |
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Aug 25, 2007, 05:00 PM // 17:00
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
Guild: [ROSE]
Profession: A/
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Yeah as an assassin you usually don't want everyone else to be on your target. Waste of energy.
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Aug 25, 2007, 05:13 PM // 17:13
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Banned
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Paragons and Mesmers=The worst classes in the game to some people? Holy crap. I really have no idea what the heck to comment about that. Wow, just wow.
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Aug 25, 2007, 05:30 PM // 17:30
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: North Carolina
Profession: N/Me
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Well paragons are fairly useless. Assassins aren't and most certainly mesmers are not.
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Aug 25, 2007, 05:51 PM // 17:51
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Earthrealm
Profession: W/A
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Scythe sins do crazy amounts of damage.
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Aug 25, 2007, 08:26 PM // 20:26
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Nov 2006
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You forgot Never Surrender and Don't give up. Or "They're on Fire", with a MoR or Elementalist Searing Flames based Team is o_o. or Blazing Finale.
And they're not even bad 1v1. Could use MoR with a fire spear, they're on fire, glowing signet and some really harsh spear attacks. Or go deep wound, poisin, burning. People are just bad with paragons, just like everyone used to backlash on Sins when factions first came out because everyone thought it was a tank. Most people should realize that paragon's are a great *offensive support* class. The comparison monks isn't really applicable because they don't buff offensive like paragons do, it should be obvious thats defensive. The thing which makes a class the best or worse for a person is the person playing it. Last edited by Angra; Aug 25, 2007 at 08:34 PM // 20:34.. |
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Aug 25, 2007, 09:45 PM // 21:45
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: D/W
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I like how people who like mesmers never have a reason to think mesmers are any good.
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Aug 26, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Behind you...
Profession: A/
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Angra: I didn't forget, I just got tired of all the copying and pasting. Laziness and all that.
Coloneh: Really? I like mesmers, and I have good reason. I've played with quality mesmers who were able to shutdown key members of a mob (monks, other mesmers, etc.). The mesmer is a subtle roll, and you're not really going to notice it if you're not paying attention because they're not nuking anything, standing in the middle of 30 bad guys, or flipping all over the place. It's easy to notice the effects that every other class has. You see shit falling from the sky, you see the guy in the middle of the mob, you see scythes, you see arrows, you notice minions, degen, hexes. Hell, you even see shouts and chants on your status bar. An interrupt mesmer? If you're paying attention, all you'll see is some guy flipping quickly back to his feet. There's no announcement, there's no glowy aura around him showing that it happened. It just... does. |
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Aug 26, 2007, 09:45 PM // 21:45
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Sep 2005
Guild: Radicals Against Tyrants
Profession: W/
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The most useless class is monks because they can't deal damage
 In case you were wondering that was sarcasm. |
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Aug 26, 2007, 10:55 PM // 22:55
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: guildhall
Guild: [DETH]
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but if u want caster and non caster shutdown, in pve a ranger is better
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Aug 27, 2007, 03:35 AM // 03:35
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Aug 2007
Guild: Templars of Balthazar
Profession: D/W
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ok i am a narutard(i don'tmind u calling me that) and i still respect the sin...well i always did anyways i don think the sin is the worst but the best for my kind of style of fighting.on a better note can some one give me a good build cause even though my build is okay i need a better one
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Aug 27, 2007, 03:42 AM // 03:42
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Oct 2006
Guild: Knights of the Ninth
Profession: R/
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Rangers are actually better at caster shutdown than melee. Throw Dirt and traps are the only thing i see as shutdown(maybe even a crip shot which mesmers can equal with crippling anguish). Mesmers have Empathy Ineptitude Clumsiness and Spirit of Failure. So bring a PD with Empathy or Spirit of Failure and you have both caster and non caster shutdown. GG? |
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Aug 27, 2007, 04:50 AM // 04:50
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Ever heard of... Ineptitude? Clumsiness? Migraine? Backfire? Frustration? Power Block? Interrupts out the wazoo? Fast Cast? I seriously hope you're kidding. Mesmers can completely ruin a caster's entire build. Stick a interrupt mesmer on an MM and watch him make no minions. Shut down a monk. Ruin an Elementalist. Sometimes even a physical, if they're playing badly and don't know how to handle it well. I have to correct this statement: Quote:
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Aug 27, 2007, 05:17 AM // 05:17
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Aug 27, 2007, 05:22 AM // 05:22
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jun 2007
Profession: N/
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Lets break it down.
Out of 10 professions, 3 are melee, and 7 are ranged. So touched ranged shutdown is less effective than ranged shutdown. Throw dirt comes to mind. Out of 10 professions, 4 can do without spells, and 6 has to cast spells.* * Warrior, Paragons, Assassins, Rangers CAN arguably do without spells. I feel that Dervishes cannot do without it. If you bring weapon shutdown, you can shut down 5 professions. If you bring spell shutdown, you can shut down 6+ professions. While Rangers as a profession is more versatile, Mesmers is probably the undisputed spell shutdown specialists. |
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Aug 27, 2007, 06:13 AM // 06:13
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: D/W
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an interrupt mesmer? are you kidding? thats all you could come up with? 1. interrupts are 99% useless in PvE 2. in that 1% where interrupts are useful a hero is going to a much more efficent interrupter than any human. faster. |
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Aug 27, 2007, 08:23 AM // 08:23
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: A/N
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Why are you talking about PvE? It's PvP that really shows how good characters can be.
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Aug 27, 2007, 01:51 PM // 13:51
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2007
Guild: FotS
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Coloneh, just because you can't play a class well doesn't mean it sucks. Yes, any retard can slap a leet SF/SH build on their ele and cause massive AoE. Come across a good Power Block mesmer build, and that ele is useless and dead in five seconds. Anyone that says certain classes suck has their head in the sand. I've played every class but Monk and Dervish, and they all have their points. Played by the right person, they will shine. The thing is to understand their mechanics and perform within those boundaries. As said ad infinitum, sins go in, kill the softie, then jump out or, if they are safe enough, jump to the next kill. Played that way, they are the most lethal 1-v-1 in the game. It's one thing to say "I hate sins" or I hate playing mesmers". That is a matter of taste. Saying "Paragons suck" just shows your ignorance. That or just flaming for its own sake, which is just as lame. |
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Aug 27, 2007, 07:21 PM // 19:21
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Nov 2006
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*cough* And bring Mantra of Recovery for a bit of fun. |
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