Curse

DudeManOzzy · Dec 11, 2007, 02:42 PM // 14:42

Build I just made and thought might be pretty good for PvP, beat a few people with it, any feedback or stuff to make it better would be great

Jagged strike
Seeping wound
Black spider strike
Critical strike
Impale
Critical eye
Way of perfection
Critical defences

And yes I know, the recharge time of Black spider strike is a serious problem but hey the only way to fix that that I know of is moebius strike, but moebius strike means I can't take seeping wound, removing half the point of the build

Views please people

yum · Dec 11, 2007, 03:36 PM // 15:36

"beat a few ppl," by that you mean 1v1?

Stormlord Alex · Dec 11, 2007, 06:09 PM // 18:09

[skill]seeping wound[/skill] --> [skill]conjure phantasm[/skill]
Then take an actual elite. Seeping Wound is pointless trash.

Tab · Dec 11, 2007, 06:10 PM // 18:10

Seeping Wound is baed. Take Wastrel's Collapse instead.

glountz · Dec 11, 2007, 06:19 PM // 18:19

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Originally Posted by ibreaktoilets

Seeping Wound is baed. Take Wastrel's Collapse instead.

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Ibreaktoilets strikes again.

To the OP: sorry, but your build isn't really effective. Rangers or mesmers will always beat sins on the degen thing.
Try to build around real elites : Shadow Prison, Shattering Assault, Moebius strike or, if you don't have these elites, maybe Aura of Displacement or Temple strike (as a side offhand disrupter in a quick L-O-D chain).
There are plenty of builds in the sin subforum so just go have a look.

Fluffy Butt · Dec 11, 2007, 06:41 PM // 18:41

I basic build, the elite can be inproved but as I said, Basic (Not really bad nor really good, its in the middle.)

DudeManOzzy · Dec 11, 2007, 07:32 PM // 19:32

mmmkay point taken, conjure phantasm is better and isn't elite, but hey thats why I posted it, thanks guys

DudeManOzzy · Dec 11, 2007, 07:35 PM // 19:35

Oh and also, when I was testing it on some people in my guild, they said something about me removing all of their enchantments, will someone please explain how this build did that? I dont see any enchantment removals in there anywhere

Moonlit Azure · Dec 11, 2007, 07:38 PM // 19:38

[skill]conjure nightmare[/skill] if you have the energy.

[skill]shatter enchantment[/skill]
[skill]drain enchantment[/skill]

For anti enchants.

MercenaryK · Dec 11, 2007, 07:40 PM // 19:40

Take out Jagged Strike and bring in some thing more productive seeing as you're using Twisted Fangs which all ready applies Bleeding, so there isn't a sense to use a Lead attack that causes bleeding.

Removing enchantments? Maybe bring Assault Enchantments, or some other elite skill related to it ....... I think Shatter Enchantments. It may make your degen more deadly if you strip enchantments to counter your degen. Just an idea.

Terraban · Dec 11, 2007, 09:43 PM // 21:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by DudeManOzzy

Oh and also, when I was testing it on some people in my guild, they said something about me removing all of their enchantments, will someone please explain how this build did that? I dont see any enchantment removals in there anywhere

No offense, but I think your guild may not be that good at the game.

Bowstring Badass · Dec 11, 2007, 11:06 PM // 23:06

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Originally Posted by glountz

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!!!!!
Ibreaktoilets strikes again.

He said this because both elites are garbage and won't be used unless it is the only elite you have available.

Tyla · Dec 11, 2007, 11:51 PM // 23:51

this build is baed....L-O-D = suckage unless its shattering assault unblockable bcuz that just owns
seeping wound is bad anyway
you have 2 bleeding's and deepwounds
i doubt this will touch "kill"

ensoriki · Dec 12, 2007, 12:17 AM // 00:17

Quote:

Jagged strike
Seeping wound
Black spider strike
Twisting fangs/Critical strike
Impale
Critical eye
Way of perfection
Critical defences

Does fragility work if conditions are reapplied? Only reason I'd bring Jagged strike in PvP
If your that bent on Bleeding Take Sharpen daggers >.> Less pitiful skill.

Why would you take jagged when you have Twisting Fangs anyways?

Oh and

Mark of Rodgort, Black Lotus Strike Black Spider Strike,Twisting Fangs,
Does basically the same thing.

MercenaryK · Dec 12, 2007, 02:02 AM // 02:02

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Originally Posted by ensoriki

Does fragility work if conditions are reapplied? Only reason I'd bring Jagged strike in PvP
If your that bent on Bleeding Take Sharpen daggers >.> Less pitiful skill.

Why would you take jagged when you have Twisting Fangs anyways?

Oh and

Mark of Rodgort, Black Lotus Strike Black Spider Strike,Twisting Fangs,
Does basically the same thing.

That's ........ that's just bad ass!

You don't need much Fire Magic to pull it off either; 15e is very very costly, but with the right skills, enough CS, you may not miss that 15e, or recover it over time that your chain isn't hindered.

I think that's what I'm going to do with my Assassin once he becomes Wu Shu Fasha whatever, some thing with the stars.

Maybe use

Conjure Flame - 10e (negligible due to 60s duration; lots of time to regen)
Mark of Rodgort -15e
Black Spider Strike - 10e
Critical Strike - 5e (assuming 2x3e + 2x4 = 14e roughly)
**Now at, without counting regen, 14e)
Golden Phoenix Strike 5e
Twisting Fangs 10e

Two extra skills to throw in for good favor: Critical Eye and for shits and giggles Star Burst at the end of your combo.

You'd need 30e just to pull this off without running out, and yeah you'd run dead close to being at 0 when the combo is over, but hey, if your hex is still on, auto attack for extra burning ftw

Dagger Mastery, Critical Strikes, Fire Magic

And no, Fragility doesn't, unless the target is in the Melandru Form, then it would

arsie · Dec 12, 2007, 02:13 AM // 02:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by MercenaryK

I think that's what I'm going to do with my Assassin once he becomes Wu Shu Fasha whatever, some thing with the stars.

You mean Why no Shoe?

MercenaryK · Dec 12, 2007, 02:16 AM // 02:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by arsie

You mean Why no Shoe?

.........Word.

Painbringer · Dec 12, 2007, 04:23 PM // 16:23

If conditions are your goal in PVP then [skill]fevered dreams[/skill] is the way to go.

Costly energy yes but 0 req in illusion gives you 10 seconds to apply, and Sins have many low energy skills that can hit with conditions.

DudeManOzzy · Dec 12, 2007, 04:54 PM // 16:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by ensoriki

Why would you take jagged when you have Twisting Fangs anyways?

To answer this constant question, it's because I'm rather unobservant and it started off with crit strike and not twisting fangs so I didn't change it

Oh and also, I didn't ask HOW to remove enchants, I asked how this build removes enchants in any way, as my friend said it was removing his enchants, when there's no skill there that do that

Oh and mercenaryK, it's weh no su

moko · Dec 12, 2007, 05:14 PM // 17:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Painbringer

If conditions are your goal in PVP then [skill]fevered dreams[/skill] is the way to go.

Costly energy yes but 0 req in illusion gives you 10 seconds to apply, and Sins have many low energy skills that can hit with conditions.

no. this is utter garbage for PvP. if you meant PvE, sure.