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Coloneh · Jan 17, 2008, 01:37 AM // 01:37

why would you need locust's? just use mobius +DB. should give you plenty of adrenaline.

Turtle222 · Jan 17, 2008, 05:13 PM // 17:13

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

why would you need locust's? just use mobius +DB. should give you plenty of adrenaline.

locusts is faster and MB + DB is so boring to use that people would rather see an old man eating horseradish while jetskiing.

Coloneh · Jan 17, 2008, 09:49 PM // 21:49

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Originally Posted by Turtle222

locusts is faster and MB + DB is so boring to use that people would rather see an old man eating horseradish while jetskiing.

it still kicks the crap out of locusts

blurmedia · Jan 17, 2008, 11:34 PM // 23:34

Not in adrenaline gain

Coloneh · Jan 18, 2008, 12:07 AM // 00:07

so? you dont need the adrenaline gain.

Bobby2 · Jan 18, 2008, 12:59 AM // 00:59

SY! is better on Paras than on Warriors because Paras are ranged.
On the other hand Warriors have a bit more armour.
Sins got the short end on both sticks...

so it'd be SY! + 7 slots to stay alive

Mist Walker Skarloc · Jan 19, 2008, 04:01 PM // 16:01

It's a good idea but you said yourself that a paragon does it better. I'd slap "SY!" on a MS+DB build though, that would work very well.

Jaigoda · Jan 19, 2008, 06:48 PM // 18:48

What's up with all this 'non-survivability' crap I hear? If you pack Crit Defenses, WoP, Crit Agility, and Shadow Refuge if you really suck, you've got the equivalent of ~13 health regen (about 20-25 if you've got SR), 75% chance to block, and ~105 armor (with Nightstalker's). Plus, everyone else on your team's got perma +100 armor. No, you might not do quite as much damage as a warrior, or have quite as much survivability as a paragon, but you're more a mix between both. Oh, and if you've got some nice buffs from allies (Like Order of Pain or the Vampire), you can easily get close to 100 DPS.

itsvictor · Jan 22, 2008, 11:28 PM // 23:28

Personally, I run duo assassins, each with save yourselves (Friend and I), with FGJ,it works fine with the rest of our set up, moebius+death blossom+critical agility, by the time you get to moebius with the first two attack skills we have the ability to maintain save yourselves for the rest of the fight, easily mitigating alot of dmg each of us would take+the rest of the party

Cherng Butter · Jan 24, 2008, 05:25 AM // 05:25

Though Locust's Fury could supercharge SY! quickly, I don't think you should devote the whole build to keeping SY! up...Moebius + DB could gain adrenaline well enough, and at the same time output some sweet damage; you could throw FGJ! in there if you wanted too. I'm not Assassin expert, but I don't like the idea of autoattacking :P

Jaigoda · Jan 24, 2008, 06:26 AM // 06:26

Meh, unless you've got 7+ rank for 5s on SY!, you can't keep it up indefinitely with Moebius, and will have over a second of non-SY! And anyway, just have someone bring Great Dwarf Weapon (or whatever it is - the one that KD's), and a Crit Locust can pump out some good damage. IMO, if you don't have a paragon or a warrior, 'Sin takes the place.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Jan 24, 2008, 10:53 PM // 22:53

I keep waiting for someone to say with any of the builds

Lack of [skill]for great justice[/skill]

Now you can spam to your hearts delight

Jaigoda · Jan 25, 2008, 03:41 AM // 03:41

You don't need FGJ on a Crit Locust. You're already spamming it every ~4 seconds.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Jan 25, 2008, 07:14 PM // 19:14

I know I was just waiting for someone to post it

Marverick · Jan 26, 2008, 11:56 PM // 23:56

Moebius/DB is like 4 adrenaline every 2.5 seconds (one dual, one offhand, and one auto attack). So SY!, at 4s, would be up for 4/5 of the time. With a high enough title, it would be up all the time. Even without a 5s SY!, though, I'd rather have that and 90 DPS rather than +100 armor up all the time.

With FJG you can keep SY! up for 20 seconds; after that, most of the mob should be dead so you don't need it up permanently anymore.

Akolo · Jan 27, 2008, 08:08 PM // 20:08

you dont even need a single adrenaline skill to keep up a SY on a sin...
A guildie ran SY withe regular Moebuis bar on a vanquishing trip, and believe it or not SY was kept up almost all the time during fights.
And YES sins die quick, but wth----->[skill]Protective Spirit[/skill]