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Old Nov 30, 2007, 05:47 PM // 17:47   #121
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Wastrels collapse is the worst elite in the game.
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buut....DP nerf probably did nuthin.
and if wastrels colapse becomes usable,i will be happy
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Old Nov 30, 2007, 06:24 PM // 18:24   #122
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balthazar's pendiulum, aob isnt even close to the owrst elite, its still bad though.
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Old Nov 30, 2007, 09:03 PM // 21:03   #123
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instead of making SP snare the target, make it so that you gain a 33% speed boost.

oh god i've created a monster :S
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Old Nov 30, 2007, 09:35 PM // 21:35   #124
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LOL, no?
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balthazar's pendiulum
This can actually be made useful in TA. Knockdowns are pretty common and it's easier to precast.

Still nowhere near as bad as wastrel's collapse. The only elites that even come close to being as useless are Seeping Wound and incredibly situational ones like Contagion.
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Old Dec 01, 2007, 02:31 AM // 02:31   #125
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incredibly situational ones like Contagion.
nah,dervs+conditions with this is nice for AoE
nevertheless not the best build
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Old Dec 01, 2007, 02:48 AM // 02:48   #126
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Seeping wound cannot compare in suckitude to wastrels collapse.

Wastrels collapse is the worst skill in the game there is no point to argue it, it is futile.
The 1 use this skill has is with Diversion,the only true way to make it worth ANYthing.


I think wastrel's should people into a dilemna.

If wastrels is

Target is hexed with wastrels for 5 seconds and knocked down when its over.
Wastrels ends prematurely if target foe uses a skill.
If wastrels ends prematurely, all nearby allies in the area are knocked down for 3 seconds and all foes within earshot are knocked down.

This would be awesome, we'd see teams with things like Balance stance/ etc working around/with this skill to get AOE KD.

It also makes people have to think.

Do I take 1 for the team? Or do I let everyone take a fall.
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Old Dec 01, 2007, 03:18 PM // 15:18   #127
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Target is hexed with wastrels for 5 seconds and knocked down when its over.
Wastrels ends prematurely if target foe uses a skill.
If wastrels ends prematurely, all nearby allies in the area are knocked down for 3 seconds and all foes within earshot are knocked down.

This would be awesome, we'd see teams with things like Balance stance/ etc working around/with this skill to get AOE KD.

It also makes people have to think.

Do I take 1 for the team? Or do I let everyone take a fall.


I like the idea that there isn't really a right answer to what to do if you would get hit with that (unless it's a one on one cause no one else is in the area or everyone else is dead, in which case the assassin is just kinda stuck but that would primarily apply to PvE. Do people use kds that much PvE?).
Wastrel's Collapse: 5e 10 rec 1/4 sec cast "Target foe is hexed with Wastrel's collapse for 3 seconds. If that foe uses a skill while hexed with Wastrel's Collapse, that for is knocked down.
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Old Dec 03, 2007, 12:10 PM // 12:10   #128
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instead of making SP snare the target, make it so that you gain a 33% speed boost.

oh god i've created a monster :S
So your saying shadow step... and you have a 33% movement increase >.>

or just movement increase....because there both inferior.
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Old Feb 06, 2008, 04:38 AM // 04:38   #130
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I frequent my assassin a lot and I'd have to say taking shadow step out wouldn't be that much of a problem. It'd encourage better positioning than just steppin and hoping to get a kill. A lot of the buffs are practical... Wastrel's Collapse needs an overhaul...
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This post fails at life and foruming as well.

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